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Old 05-05-2007, 02:36 AM
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I think whether abortions are right depends on the circumstances. For instance, I believe a child is over 8 weeks developed it is despicable, but not if the person was raped. I think if the person just doesn't want a baby, it's wrong, unless the baby would be born into a horrible house with an abusize family. It all depends on the individual case.
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Old 05-05-2007, 06:45 AM
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I'm in the middle of this, I would never have an abortion and I think girls and women should only use it as a last resort, there are to many options today from financial assistants to adoptions, but I am for it when it comes to rape, I understand how B.R said its almost impossible to get pregnant when raped, but I don’t agree with the comment
If there hot, its sex,
If there ugly, its rape,
My mom was raped by my dad when they were married and he was drunk. I know some people say its not considered rape then, but trust me until your married and in a abusive marriage and your in that situation, then you have no right saying its not possible, he’s your husband. Then there is the girls who are raped by there fathers. What are they suppos to do have the baby? Not only would it be a constant remind of the girls child hood, but the baby would also be at a very high risk of child defects. Then there are the girls who didn’t think ahead and use protection or the protection broke, and I'm especially referring to the 18 or younger girls, now days it’s very common for girls to be having sex at 15 even. Lets say one of these girls had gotten pregnant from there bad choice of having sex so young. I would say to them, keep it, except I have met girls in this situation were if there mother or father found out they would be severely beaten or there parents would force them to have the abortion. If we took away these kinds of girls rights to have abortions I think it would be a mistake. If the person who’s having the baby's safety is in jeopardy or the child’s chance of living a healthy life is slim then the option should be open. I also have to add that maybe if parents were more involved in a positive way in there children’s life then maybe kids wouldn’t be having sex at such a early age now, I think until your 18 you shouldn’t have sex, your to young to deal with the consequence. truthfully I think 20 is better, and I’m not a hipacrit because I was a virgin till I was 20, I wanted to wait till I was mature enough to deal with any consequences. Most of my friends were having se by 15 though. My best friend had sex at 14. I find this disturbing. Personally, it makes me feel girls now days don’t value there self worth. Even though I feel this way about waiting to have sex, I do respect the girls who are young who do keep the baby and try there best to take care of it. There very brave for making the choice. I know if I was ever pregnant at 16 and kept the child I would have been very scared. So any young mothers out there, you have my respect. People make mistakes but its how they deal with there mistakes that is important.

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Old 05-05-2007, 06:50 AM
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Blame yourself for sleeping with the guy??? OMG. THE GUY IS JUST AS RESPONSIBLE!!!!!! What are you, a fucking caveman? (No, I don't work for Geiko.)
Just for the record I don't think the guy shouldn't get any blame but in almost every one of your examples or posts you talk about the guy not having to go through it, the guy leaving the baby, the guy taking off on the woman. I don't know what may have spurred this, past relationships or just a general distaste for the actions of men, but we're not all pigs. I have just as much right to decide what should happen to my baby as the woman does. ESPECIALLY if we're equally "at fault".
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Old 05-05-2007, 07:13 AM
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I don't think an unborn child has any rights whatsoever, and its fate is quite literally in the hands (or womb) of its creator until it is born. As has been said, people can't really go around telling women what to do with what they have growing inside them - who are they to appoint themselves spokespersons for foetuses? ('Foetusii?')

However I think the way things are generally accepted now is about right - there should be a cutoff point for abortion, from when the 'baby' becomes significantly formed enough to be recognised as a human being, and not just a load of expanding cells. Usually this will give the potential mother plenty of time to decide whether it is right to bring it into the world or not.
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Old 05-05-2007, 07:21 AM
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Oh boy..what a topic.

1st of all Mona..as to the child being stabbed 135 times rather than being aborted..how do you figure this..
Just think..this living..breathing..tiny little creature,,with a heartbeat and a pulse is subjected to this kind of ordeal.
An adult can't stand being pricked by a needle..how the hell is it compared to a baby having a knife plunged into it multiple times...
As for the child being aborted..same thing..it is vaccumed out of the womb on high suction..however..whether the baby feels anything is just a theory..nobody knows for sure as the abortion will only take place if the fetus is 2.3 weeks old.
(professionally) and it is considered that at that stage..the baby hasn't quite taken any shape or form.
As i said..this is not factual..just theorised.

The arguement about men vs woman is probably one of the lamest i have ever come across..
what the hell has this to do with this topic..?
It all has to do with the woman and her choices.
Is she right for choosing to terminate a pregnancy..?
unless people know her exact frame of mind at the time..then who are we to judge or to pass comment...she is the one who has to live with the choices she makes.
and Rayne : maybe it is impossible to get pregnant after being raped (maybe in theory only)
they say its because of the trauma etc..however
..but not highly unlikely..and i am from the heart talking from experience.
There is always that chance..once the penis penetrates a vagina and once the seed has been ejeculated..that pregnancy is likely to occur.

Personally however: I would not abort in any situation.
To kill something as precious as baby under any circumstances is not an option i would happily follow..whether this child is being diagnoses with some kind of rare disease or not..whether it was conceived through rape or not.
This child is a clone to me and just like me..this fetus has a right to be able to be born and be subjected to thier own experiences.
Birthing is a painful and yet..its probably one of the most beautifulest sensations ever.
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Old 05-05-2007, 07:53 AM
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I see what you're saying, but this just looks fucking painful to me:-





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Old 05-05-2007, 07:57 AM
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I see what you're saying, but this just looks fucking painful to me:-





:eek: :D :eek:
Yeah that's definently site appropriate.
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well as much as a girl can love a squirrely little girly man I suppose.

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Old 05-05-2007, 07:59 AM
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So you want to censor natural childbirth - then why repaste the picture?
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Old 05-05-2007, 08:03 AM
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Gotta quote it somehow. Nice avatar by the way. Definently appropriate also.
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Old 05-05-2007, 08:11 AM
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Did you really need to quote being the following post, and really have to repaste that disgusting picture as well as the words?

But you like my cartoon tits.

Not sure about your avatar, though.
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