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Old 05-11-2010, 05:05 AM
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Most Pretentious Directors

These are the five directors (who have all at least dabbled in horror films) I think have the worst track record for making pretentious films:

Ingmar Bergman (Hour Of The Wolf)
Federico Fellini (Fellini Satyricon)
David Lynch (Eraserhead)
Kiyoshi Kurosawa (Cure, Pulse)
and the absolute worst offender: Peter Greenaway (The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, And Her Lover)

Any others?
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As for your list...no. Just no.
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These are the five directors (who have all at least dabbled in horror films) I think have the worst track record for making pretentious films:

Ingmar Bergman (Hour Of The Wolf)
Federico Fellini (Fellini Satyricon)
David Lynch (Eraserhead)
Kiyoshi Kurosawa (Cure, Pulse)
and the absolute worst offender: Peter Greenaway (The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, And Her Lover)

Any others?
What...the...fuck?!


Pretentious directors according to me - M Night Shyamalan, Paul W S Anderson, Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, Barry Sonnenfeld, Cameron Crowe, Steven Soderbergh, Woody Allen, Timur Bekmambetov.

Treading on the line - James Cameron, Tim Burton, Darren Aronofsky.
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:42 AM
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It is precisely this kind of negativity coming from "fans" that I despise and keeps me away from this site.

Making a film is hard work. Even a bad film requires a ton of hard work. I should know, I've made several very bad films. Making a good film is extraordinarily difficult and crafting a film that stands the test of time is close to a miraculous event.

Before you call these master crafstmen pretentious, try making a feature film.

What's that? You can't? You don't have the skill or talent or perseverance?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

The saying used to be "those who cannot, teach" but it seems far more appropriate to say "those who cannot, criticize." Becasue a critic is someone too lazy or too untalented or simply too fearful to actually create that which they take such delight in destroying.

I come here to share my love for films. I think it's time to leave for good.
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Let's makea list of the most pretentious posters!
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Let's makea list of the most pretentious posters!
Whoa!! Not allowed to criticize films or directors? I thought that was the point of a movie forum. It's not like I was saying they were terrible human beings for making films I didn't happen to like. It seems to me, not too long ago, we were discussing the repercussions of daring to criticize a highly respected arty film, and being clobbered for it because it meant you were too stupid to"get it". I thought we decided that the people who said that were pompous, arrogant jerks. Oh well.
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It is precisely this kind of negativity coming from "fans" that I despise and keeps me away from this site.

Making a film is hard work. Even a bad film requires a ton of hard work. I should know, I've made several very bad films. Making a good film is extraordinarily difficult and crafting a film that stands the test of time is close to a miraculous event.

Before you call these master crafstmen pretentious, try making a feature film.

What's that? You can't? You don't have the skill or talent or perseverance?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

The saying used to be "those who cannot, teach" but it seems far more appropriate to say "those who cannot, criticize." Becasue a critic is someone too lazy or too untalented or simply too fearful to actually create that which they take such delight in destroying.

I come here to share my love for films. I think it's time to leave for good.
No way, mister. You do that and I m catching the next flight to Hollywood to dive directly on you, wherever you are. :D

Not like any of those I listed haven't made any superb films I don't appreciate. Heck, Spielberg's Jaws & Schindler's List are two of my most faves of all-time. I love most of em and their works, whether they are pretentious or not.
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:54 AM
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Whoa!! Not allowed to criticize films or directors? I thought that was the point of a movie forum. It's not like I was saying they were terrible human beings for making films I didn't happen to like. It seems to me, not too long ago, we were discussing the repercussions of daring to criticize a highly respected arty film, and being clobbered for it because it meant you were too stupid to"get it". I thought we decided that the people who said that were pompous, arrogant jerks. Oh well.
Once again- who said anything was forbidden? I'm not going to genuflect in your direction if I don't agree with you, no matter the amount of self-righteous bluster you put forth.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:24 AM
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It is precisely this kind of negativity coming from "fans" that I despise and keeps me away from this site.

Making a film is hard work. Even a bad film requires a ton of hard work. I should know, I've made several very bad films. Making a good film is extraordinarily difficult and crafting a film that stands the test of time is close to a miraculous event.

Before you call these master crafstmen pretentious, try making a feature film.

What's that? You can't? You don't have the skill or talent or perseverance?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

The saying used to be "those who cannot, teach" but it seems far more appropriate to say "those who cannot, criticize." Becasue a critic is someone too lazy or too untalented or simply too fearful to actually create that which they take such delight in destroying.

I come here to share my love for films. I think it's time to leave for good.
Okay, if you're going to use this logic, then you never have the right to question any professional that you hire unless you can do the job yourself (are you a Doctor? Yeah, that's what I thought.)

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Old 05-11-2010, 10:33 AM
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These are the five directors (who have all at least dabbled in horror films) I think have the worst track record for making pretentious films:

Ingmar Bergman (Hour Of The Wolf)
Federico Fellini (Fellini Satyricon)
David Lynch (Eraserhead)
Kiyoshi Kurosawa (Cure, Pulse)
and the absolute worst offender: Peter Greenaway (The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, And Her Lover)

Any others?
What's the meaning of the word "pretentious" here actually?

As far I understand we have an annual award activity here that's always been done in a very democratic way....what we can do best is there's a certain type of category & you can be nominated, just wait & see what happens.
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