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02-06-2008, 03:24 PM
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Do you think the Horror Genre is in trouble?
I was talking to my best friend about this, and we've come to this unsettling conclusion: Horror might be in trouble, and I'll tell you why.
Think about the recent horror movies in the past year or so. We've got One Missed Call, The Eye, The Orphanage, 30 Days of Night, and Hostel Part II. To be honest, The Orphanage is the only one really getting positive criticisms. And it's not even an American movie, lol. And over the past few years... It seems like America's brilliant idea of making good horror is by remaking Japanese films that were already perfectly fine. The Ring is the exception. But in America, we're getting shitty remakes like The Grudge, One Missed Call, The Eye, etc etc. So, with that in mind.... what has been original lately? Hostel, Hostel II, Saw, Saw II, Saw III, Saw IV... and they all have something in common: They all rely on violence, blood, and gore. I mean, shit, we've got a remake of PROM NIGHT coming out for christ's sakes. Who gives a shit?!? They remade The Fog, a 1980 classic from John Carpenter, and the remake was completely fucking useless and stupid. They remade Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and we all know it wasn't as scary as the original. Rob Zombie remade Halloween... There's a remake of Child's Play coming out in 2009. There's a remake of Friday the 13th coming out in 2009. They just announced a remake of A Nightmare on Elm Street. They're talking about a remake for The Thing. WHAT THE FUCK. Think about it. By 2010, all of the icons of horror will have been introduced to new generations with painfully inferior remakes. What the fuck for? All of these films were perfectly fine the first time. ... at this rate, we'll have a remake of The Exorcist by 2012. Don't be surprised if that happens. The very thought of it makes me wanna pull my hair out. Now, there have been some GOOD remakes. I very much enjoyed Dawn of the Dead, The Amityville Horror, and The Hills Have Eyes... I think we can all agree that those were very solid remakes, that perhaps surpassed their originals. But there is no need to remake every goddamn horror movie. Every fucking one of them is getting remade, and I can't think of one reason other than $$$$$$$. I realize this is a paranoid thread, and I'm bitching extensively with bold and capitalized words... and I apologize for that. But my point here is this: When is horror going to be GOOD again? When are we going to stop focusing on remakes, and start focusing on ORIGINAL ideas? When are we going to get rid of the tits and gore, and start focusing on THINKING and PSYCHOLOGY? When will we see a movie that will keep us up at night for a month, instead of keeping us from staring at the annoying 13-year old girls who are text-messaging two seats in front of us in the theater? When will we be genuinely frightened, instead of genuinely bored? Sorry for the length of this thread, but I really needed to vent.
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02-06-2008, 04:33 PM
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go see my movies when they come out!
GIALLO L.A. GOTHIC DAMNED they're new stuff. did you see The Descent, Bug, Grindhouse, The Orphanage, or Hatchet in the theaters? Supporting these films is how you get more ones like it. Horror won't go anywhere as long as those who love it work to make it... or at least go support it wherever they can.
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02-06-2008, 05:59 PM
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The horror genres fine. If nothing more, all the remakes everybody hates do put money into it. I know what your thinking, making money on remakes will only futher prove them to be worthwhile. While that may be true on some levels, the fact is, the more money there is to spread around the more people who do have an idea of thier own will see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Rember also. Alot of these movies being remade are old enough that some younger viewers never even heard of the orginal. Its just a movie to them. Thier judging them on thier own merits(as we all should really). I do agree with you on something though. All those movies were perfectly fine to begin with. If it aint broke done fix it. But nobodys ever contacted me and asked if I wanted to be involved in a remake. Im assuming the same with you. Not up to me or you. What is up to us is weither or not we watch them. I mean, if it bothers you that much just dont watch them. But Ive said it before, and Im sure Ill say it again. Whats on film now woulnt change. The orginal Halloween will always be. No matter how many times its remade. I watched the 78 Halloween yesterday. I didnt expect the 07 version to play, and it wasnt a surpise when it didnt. The Thing is a remake by the way.
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02-07-2008, 02:22 AM
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Another quick edit here: Remakes are a good thing if they're well done. There are some great remakes out there, including The Thing.
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02-07-2008, 03:29 AM
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[QUOTE=Despare;664874]Horror has never been about pleasing critics and a lot of great horror films will never get a lot of good critical review. [QUOTE]
In the 1970s it was not needed. I think that most of the horror films were looked down on by critics, till the later when they realized the popularity. I think that I read that in a book about Tobe Hooper. He was saying that his movie was not very liked by the critics.... I don't remember that too clearly.
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02-07-2008, 06:21 AM
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As long as good, solid quality horror movies are still coming...I say the genre is pretty much safe. But the fans need to show their loyalty towards such flicks. I am with Rod there.
For example, Grindhouse. Last year it brought something fresh and novel to the screens. But it bit the dust at the box office. We have PG 13 horror such as 1408 and The Mist doing decent business, and many critically acclaimed ones to boot, which came and hit the screens...and disappeared. My question is...where are the audiences? You, as a viewer, cant stop your curiosity value for a remake. Ergo, remakes are being made left, right and centre. How could Rob Zombie's Halloween do so well at the box-office, when it was just a paler version of Carpenter's brilliant 70s epic? It only goes to show that viewers love remakes, and they will pay money to see it. Originality, by way of the box office, is out. I dare anybody out there to come out and say Zombie made a better Halloween than JC! But, Zombie made more money. Try as you may, the trend of making remakes is in...because now producers have found a cash cow and will milk it till its boobs shrivel and hang down. Keep paying for remakes, they will feed you remakes. Pay for a good, original and solid horror movie...and they will be challenged to bring those out. Its not about brilliance anymore...its viewer's choice and viewer's money, which counts. Quote:
And about the rest, they might be good remakes, but they will NEVER EVER be better than the originals. Because of that word itself. ORIGINAL. That word in itself distinguishes it from a Remake. An Original is an ORIGINAL. A Remake is a RE-MAKE.
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I don't think the genre is in trouble at all. while there are good points and bad points to the topics of remakes, teenie-bopper PG-13 horrors, the re-emergence of the exploitation film as a genuine money-maker, etc., the main point (to me) is that money is being sunk deep into the genre, which means that, for better or for worse, more horror movies are being made. and, chances are, the more horror movies are being made, the more good ones are being made (and are going to be made), even if it's just by accident on the part of the studios. it's the whole "500 monkeys in a room with 500 typewriters" thing. whether or not the good ones get the attention they deserve (once again, Hatchet being a case in point) is a different can of worms altogether.
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