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Old 09-19-2005, 05:20 PM
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Invasion Of Privacy?

Dustin and I were watching a show last night in which they were discussing the fact that New York has put up security cameras in the street lights, above the sidewalks in the city...

There were protestors with signs complaining that this was an invasion of privacy...


This is how I see it.....When a person is out in public, there IS no privacy...What's the difference between someone looking at you on a security monitor, and everyone looking at you from across the sidewalk?....I don't understand the point that these people are trying to make.....It's common knowledge that most criminals will not commit a crime until they are sure no one's watching, if they know that someone is ALWAYS watching, that should be a deterrent, right?....I think it's a pretty logical means to try to cut down on the crime in New York (or ANY big city)

I can't imagine how anyone would have a problem with it, unless they ARE the criminals...How can the 'average law-abiding' citizen, have a problem with this...Am I missing something?

One of the protestors said, "Everyone has SOMETHING that they don't want the world to see, and we have a right to protect that"....Okay, even if that's true, It isn't like 'those things' would be put on display in public anyway, so the cameras wouldn't be seeing it......And, when I thought about that statement, I tried to think of something that I, personally, wouldn't want anyone to see (for whatever reason), because the guy said "EVERYONE'...All that I could think of was that I wouldn't want people to see me naked, and I wouldn't want them to watch me having sex...BUT, those are things that I wouldn't do in public...So, what's the big deal?


Stores have used security cameras to deter shoplifters for years, how is this any different?


I discussed this with Dustin, he couldn't come up with anything other than what I did...So, I figured I would ask you guys...
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Old 09-19-2005, 05:44 PM
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I'm not sure how i feel about it. Any crime deterrent is fine by me but say i'm walking down the street.....nobody is around....i get the urge....you know what i'm talking about..........do i have to spell it out......oh..i guess i do...i'm talking about "nosepicking".....don't deny it...you all do it. How can i get in there and really dig around if i think its gonna be filmed.
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Old 09-19-2005, 05:57 PM
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I agree with you Bloodrayne. Those are the only things I wouldn't want somebody to see and thats why it only happens in the privacy of my home. I think that the cameras are a great idea though. I remember watching a crime show awhile back and having those cameras helped catch a group of gang members who had beaten someone to death in the street. I forgot what the show was called but it was a documentary on people who kill just for fun.
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Old 09-19-2005, 06:55 PM
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I agree as well.
Although its VERY creepy. I work right by wall street, and everyday, when i walk by the stock exchange, i notice more and more "strange things". Besides the obvious "army guys" (which are sooo just there for show- to make peopel feel safe)...
im convinced..there is plenty of shady shit going on there that the people dont see.....sharp shooters in the sky scrapers....CIA ops dressed as bums.....

i might sound like im paranoid, but trust me...

I know for a fact because i work with import export companies - the feds tap the lines all the time. We've had a few visits too. (of course nothing wrong or illegl was done, but still - they definitly poke their nose around in phone calls and emails...and the second rifle..or explosive is mentioned[cause we do alot of military shipments] they automaticaly buzz themselves in.

I guess we have to accept th we no longer have TRUE privacy. But ehh ..who cares....if some poor sap's job is to listen in on my phone while im having phone sex with my gf....sucks for him....i dont care...lol
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Old 09-19-2005, 07:17 PM
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.if some poor sap's job is to listen in on my phone while im having phone sex with my gf....sucks for him....i dont care...lol
That might be fine and good for you, but this is my business we're talking about here. They should have to pay a fee atleast. :p

I don't REALLY care about it. Public is public.

"not private; open to the people as a whole"
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Old 09-19-2005, 07:44 PM
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I also agree that it isn't an invasion of someones privacy, I think it would be a good idea.
If they had cameras in the street lights people might behave themselves, knowing that they're being watched.
I don't see how it it could be considered an invasion of privacy.
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Old 09-19-2005, 08:11 PM
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Haven't they had these cameras in London for years now? I'm really of two minds on this issue. On one hand, I can perfectly understand the reasoning behind it, and it would most likely help to deter crime. On the other though, something about it sends up warning flags in my mind, and I can't stop thinking about 1984. I don't think it really fits under the "invasion of privacy" banner, but it makes me uneasy.
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Old 09-19-2005, 08:19 PM
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I don't see a problem with it. Besides the naked thing which only takes place in my house and I'm not a criminal so I don't care what they tape in public.
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Old 09-19-2005, 08:23 PM
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The more security the better.! I'd be perfectly fine even with a police officer following me everywhere I went. (yes, I live in fear nowadays)
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Old 09-19-2005, 08:50 PM
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I'm not sure how i feel about it. Any crime deterrent is fine by me but say i'm walking down the street.....nobody is around....i get the urge....you know what i'm talking about..........do i have to spell it out......oh..i guess i do...i'm talking about "nosepicking".....don't deny it...you all do it. How can i get in there and really dig around if i think its gonna be filmed.
LOL....Same here what if i have this wicked itch in my ass crack i dont wont anyone watching me scratching it. But like bloodrayne they have cameras in stores so i dont see what the big deal is. Doesnt bother me becuse i dont live in New York
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