Reparations And Affirmative Action?...Touchy Subjects

[MichaelMyers]

George Bush does not care about black people

[Spallalala]

Originally posted by stubbornforgey
I have also had dealings with aborigines..so know what the white australians are talking about on that matter..dirty fucks they are..!!!

I gotta step in here. Because not all of them are like that. I was born in Darwin where the majority of them are just like us. I also lived around them for about 9yrs in Perth.
When I moved to sydney I came across the dirty fuckers. Drinkin metho and lazying around bus shelters. Scared the hell out of me because they were so different. They seem to be white haters here in Sydney also.
I mean, there not all the same. It would be the same situation if I said that all maoris are criminals and are pretty damm violent. Too much aggression in there system. But I can't say that because I know its not true.

[TheOmen]

I'm one of the least racist people I know

I thought only racists said that :D

Reparations-No. The problem is, where does it stop? You can't go on handing out money to correct anything you've done in the past, and blacks shouldn't want it either. It makes it seem that what they went through can be repaired by money. And it can't. Most black dudes I know don't want reparations. They just want to be respected. That's a far bigger reward. Will it ever happen? Probably not. But money to cover for slavery is insulting to both sides. Plus the fact that many immigrants came over after slavery was abolished(like my family) and had no participation is slavery. Should I be taxed for something I didn't do?

Affirmative Action-Huge failure. Liberal guilt gave way to these goverment programs, and all it has done is form a crutch for minorities to lean on. It doesn't help them, and it doesn't help white guilt. In fact, it's created a bigger divide simply because whites are now even more spiteful. It also makes minorities question themselves. "Did I get the job because I deserved it, or am I the token black guy to fill the quota?" It doesn't help anyone in the least. What should have been done 40 years ago was improving the city schools, and the cities themselves. Instead we tip toe around the problems in the community, and instead focus on pandering to minorities like they're handicapped.

I completely agree with your views cheeb. I live in Florida. My experience is this. The Spanish, Mexican and Cuban immigrants that come to Florida to find better job oppurtunities, well, a majority of them don't care to learn the language that was once the the primary language. The language you and I speak , and I hate to say this, has become a secondary one. Requirements for most jobs here in Florida require that Spanish, Mexican, or Cuban must be spoken and/or learned. And as I do not practice prejudicial values as a means of running my life, and as prejudicial as this may sound, I find that discriminatory against Americans and the immigrants who have worked so hard to learn the American language.

I live in Florida too. And it's a big time garbage dump because immigrants come here and act like they are still in Haiti. What happened to being so prideful that you would work hard on your English, like my ancestors forced themselves to? They wanted to open a business, they better believe they had to at least learn the language. There's a Winn Dixie here that actually has a translator for those who speak English. Meaning if you speak English and shop there, they have to get this translator to speak to you, because he's the only person who speaks it. And that's wrong.

[Haunted]

"Some of my best friends are black." -That's one of my favorites.:rolleyes:

[ItsAlive75]

Telling immagrants to take the time to learn our language if they're going to adapt is kinda greedy.

People who only speak Spanish could say the same about you. If these people ARE coming to America to make a better life for them and their families (and by the way, they're taking the jobs Americans won't), you're refusing them that because you don't speak their language. White people are the MINORITY in America, there's more of "them" (if you wanna get Republican here) then there are of "us". America's a mixed bag, we're culturally diverse. So saying you're not going to learn any language but the one you speak seems weird.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Telling immagrants to take the time to learn our language if they're going to adapt is kinda greedy.

Hmm...Not really...

If you planned to move to Japan, and live and work in Japan for the rest of your life, don't you think you would HAVE to learn Japanese?...Or do you think that all of the Japanese people that you end up working with, should have to know English?...Remember, you would be in THEIR country, at that point...

[The STE]

Reparations and Afirmative Action are both bullshit. I'd go into why, but I'm pretty sure any reason I give has already been brought up, so all I'll say is that I haven't oppressed anybody

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Hmm...Not really...

If you planned to move to Japan, and live and work in Japan for the rest of your life, don't you think you would HAVE to learn Japanese?...Or do you think that all of the Japanese people that you end up working with, should have to know English?...Remember, you would be in THEIR country, at that point...

Actually English is a requirement in Japan... but I get your point.

And also, japan isn't like the U.S. It's pretty much just Japanese people there. We've got a shitload of different cultures and ethnicities.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Actually English is a requirement in Japan... but I get your point.

And also, japan isn't like the U.S. It's pretty much just Japanese people there. We've got a shitload of different cultures and ethnicities.

True...But, I do believe that the majority of us still speak English...And English is considered our 'national language'...I have some friends who came here from Thailand, just to go to college...And they learned English in order to do that...They didn't have a problem with it...

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
True...But, I do believe that the majority of us still speak English...And English is considered our 'national language'...I have some friends who came here from Thailand, just to go to college...And they learned English in order to do that...They didn't have a problem with it...

I guess I shouldn't say they shouldn't have to learn our language, but I don't think we should be forcing them to do it. If they wanna hold on to their language, I think that's fine. I just don't get the hostility towards forcing other cultures to adapt.

I guess I'm in the minority here... and I TOTALLY didn't originally mean that as a joke, but that's kinda funny.