Gender vs Gender

[ferretchucker]

So pretty much from the age you can understand words, it is drilled into people's heads that a man must not hit a woman. In all fairness, violence towards either gender tends to be frowned upon, but of all of them be it girl vs girl, boy vs boy or even girl hitting boy, boy hitting girl is the most socially unacceptable one.

But a story my friend told me got me thinking. A few months back, my friends older brother was in a club when a woman walked by and felt his arse. He turned around and said "Easy tiger" so she smashed a bottle over his head. In response, he head butted her. After being turned on by a lot of people and asked why he did it, his response was "If she wants to act like a man, I'll treat her like a man."

Listening to it, his actions seemed fair enough to me. She had pretty badly assaulted him and he wasn't gonna sit back and take it. I don't think he should have just let it go because she was a woman. Then I thought about it more and I got those feminist groups into my head, who insist that women are complete equals to men, and should be treated as such. But then, when a man hits a woman for a justifiable reason, they spring on him for being evil. Bit of a double standard, don't you think?

So from this, I think I've come to the conclusion that if a woman has done something in the way of violence that a guy would hit a guy for, it might be okay to hit a girl. After all, if I was walking down the street and some girl started punching and kicking me and it hurt, I don't think I'd just let her carry on just because her reproductive organs are inside her. Obviously, I'd try to run like I would if it were a guy, but if I see no other solution than violence, I'd fight back.

Thoughts on the matter?

[bloody_ribcut]

girl trying to slap me = no hitting

girl trying to hurt me with weapons = jab and a straight right to the head


i have never hit a girl or woman in my life and i hope i dont have to, but if something happens like in your club story i will protect myself also.

[ferretchucker]

Exactly. I've never hit a girl. Apart from once in Basketball, although i was actually just running and as my arm swung back it hit her in the chest. Completely unintentional. She just laughed about it.

[missmacabre]

If I did something along the lines of that fight in the bar, I would expect to get hit in return. All actions have consequences and sexually and physically assaulting someone while in a bar where obviously people are gonna be drinking is a bad idea. The least I would expect is to get pushed backwards and fall on my ass, and everyone would stare enough for me to be embarassed and not try that again.

Maybe I'm just used to it. I have a little brother with one hell of a temper. The most recent example was when I tossed a bag of salad at him and he didn't see it coming and got hit in tha face. Could not have possibly hurt, but he turned around and punched me in the shoulder as hard as he could. I have a very high pain tollerence though, so maybe I'm more likely to let that go. If he had hit another girl, my sister for example, there would have been crying and he would have been in trouble with my parents.

What people deserve and what should actually happen is different though. There was an episode of 20/20, one of those "What would you do" specials where they had a man hit his girfriend at the park and people were rushing over there to tell him not to hit a woman, restrain him, call the cops etc. Once they reversed the story and the girl was hitting her boyfriend, only one person stopped to tell her to stop.

[novakru]

I say kick everybody's ass, why discriminate?

[mrbelle]

I am lucky that i have never had to hit anyone. I would love to say that i would never hit a woman but you never know how you are going to act in diffrent Sitiuations but i know i would never want to hit a woman but I can't say that it will never happen.

[milktoaste]

First off, I was always taught 'never to hit a lady', which is a little bit different than just women in general. I've only open hand slapped a girl once, she had it coming though. Only on one occasion have I threatend a girlfriend, an ex who was a trained boxer. She was known to get out of control, so I told her if she ever tried to kick my ass that I would hit her. And for all intents and purposes, I probably would have to protect myself. Thankfuly it never came to that.

As far as a man hitting a women goes, it's wrong and we men know better. Pushing or anything less than a direct punch or kick(no knees or elbows either) when we need to protect ourselves should be enough.

[Haunted]

I am a feminist, and I want to know why it's wrong? Do you think we can't fight? That's a pile of bullshit. I'd never hit a guy unless he got out of hand, but if we came to blows I'd make damn sure his balls were in my hands by the time it was finished.

I'm not saying this to sound all tough. I'm saying this, because the notion of "never to hit a lady" comes from the stereotype that women are weak and defenseless, which isn't really true. A woman can kick a man's ass just as surely as he can kick her's. It depends on, if it's just a generic fight how she approaches her opponent.

I don't know about some feminists, but I want to be treated equally. In the words of Ani Difranco, "I ain't no damsel in distress."

[Elvis_Christ]

Haunted is dead on with the stereotyping issue, took the words right outta my mouth.

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If someone hit me with a bottle I'd more than likely snap regardless of their gender.

[milktoaste]

Since when is refering to someone as a lady a stereotype?

Of course women can fight, most haven't been taught how. Alot of men can't fight either, I also don't think you should hit a gentleman. Is that too stereotypical to men?