Sept 10 Hadron Collider whatsis?

[Vodstok]

I read the cracked.com article last week about this :)


I love that they point out that the scientists who are running the LHC, when confronted with the question of "what about the possibility of destroying all life as we know it?" their response was essentially "We wont know until we switch it on. Duh."

And to answer MD: they are eggheads. For many of them, they want to know, that is it. Although, if they do make some major and practical breakthroughs in quantum science, and learn how to make it useful to us, you can throw all the rules that govern society out the window, because the quatum world doesnt beleieve in them. It opens the possibilty of dimensional travel, teleportation and things like that.

Just remember, if a portal is opened, and you runout of gas, JUST WAIT A FEW FUCKING MINUTES. Godamn... 4 bullets kills monsters. Granted, old people and a kid in a car make easier targets....

[MisterSadistro]

Is it just me or do actual experiments like this end up getting thwarted when they go bad by Spiderman ? The last I remember, experiments like this and Spiderman were only in the comics/movies so when eggheads are saying it might possibly end life as we know it/ turn the earth into goo and seriously MEAN end all life as we know it/ turn the earth into goo when we don't really have Spiderman seems, well, FREAKIN' INSANE !
I never thought I would agree with fascism and support killing off scientists for our own good until I read this thread. Suspecting the outcome of an experiment and saying something like "we don't know yet until we do it" is ridiculous. If I thought lighting an M-80 in my hand would blow my fingers off because I suspected it, but wouldn't actually know until I did it seems like a decent example of Natural Selection (tm), because I'd be pretty damn stupid to do that when that was the likely conclusion. The difference is these guys are lighting M-80s in everyone's hands. They couldn't have used their time, knowledge and money to work on something a little more worthwhile like making plant life survive in deserts, curing cancer or shutting Rosie O'Donnell up after she is no longer on tv ? We're stuck here now so work on those problems.
CK

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by MisterSadistro

Is it just me or do actual experiments like this end up getting thwarted when they go bad by Spiderman ? The last I remember, experiments like this and Spiderman were only in the comics/movies so when eggheads are saying it might possibly end life as we know it/ turn the earth into goo and seriously MEAN end all life as we know it/ turn the earth into goo when we don't really have Spiderman seems, well, FREAKIN' INSANE !
I never thought I would agree with fascism and support killing off scientists for our own good until I read this thread. Suspecting the outcome of an experiment and saying something like "we don't know yet until we do it" is ridiculous. If I thought lighting an M-80 in my hand would blow my fingers off because I suspected it, but wouldn't actually know until I did it seems like a decent example of Natural Selection (tm), because I'd be pretty damn stupid to do that when that was the likely conclusion. The difference is these guys are lighting M-80s in everyone's hands. They couldn't have used their time, knowledge and money to work on something a little more worthwhile like making plant life survive in deserts, curing cancer or shutting Rosie O'Donnell up after she is no longer on tv ? We're stuck here now so work on those problems.
CK

I think they are continuing on basically because everything that has been said to date is hypothetical at best, and the doomsday scenarios are so infintesimally unlikely that they are not considered actual concerns. Reading through the cracked.com lists also mentions that there is a theory that by observing dark matter, you begin its decay, which would begin an unstoppable chainreaction of matter simply destroying itself, and that we did in fact observe some in a far off nebula a few years back, so we may have already triggered the end ofall existance simply by looking at the stuff. And if not us, some aliens might have done it. We cant bury our heads in the sand simply because we fear what the quest for knowledge might bring.

I think the end of the world is probably about as likely as an egg sudddenly appearing in the head of every living thing on earth, instantaneaously killing everyone and everything. According to Douglas Adams, in an inifinite universe, its possible; Its just not very likely.


Also, i get a kick out of the "why couldnt these scientists do something more useful with their genius brains like cure aids or cancer?"

Honestly, I dont think the physicists have the experience necesarry :)

Edit: And who says the LHC wont bring about the existance of spiderman? Ever think of that?

I wonder if Peter Parker would actually look like Toby McGuire....

[ferretchucker]

I doubt anything will happen. They've been doing this for decades. Just not on this scale.

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by ferretchucker

I doubt anything will happen. They've been doing this for decades. Just not on this scale.

Exactly.





:)

[The Mothman]

If it could seriously end the world..somebody would do something to stop it...probably not our country though.:)
this stuff bothers the fuck out of me for weeks. rather just not know about it.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by Vodstok

It opens the possibilty of dimensional travel, teleportation and things like that.

well we're all dead in one of those dimensions now.

Like I said before, they won't discover anything by doing this. It's just a gigantic waste of time and money.

fix problems we have, invent some shit we need... that's what we pay you nerds for.

[ferretchucker]

Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X

well we're all dead in one of those dimensions now.

Like I said before, they won't discover anything by doing this. It's just a gigantic waste of time and money.

fix problems we have, invent some shit we need... that's what we pay you nerds for.

But the idea is that this makes something completely new. Something unheard of. A new material. And who knows. Maybe it will be a great source of unharmful, renewable energy. Or something to stop the ice caps melting. Something to get rid of Celine Dion once and for all.

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X

well we're all dead in one of those dimensions now.

Like I said before, they won't discover anything by doing this. It's just a gigantic waste of time and money.

fix problems we have, invent some shit we need... that's what we pay you nerds for.

Sadly for you people, we nerds have our own wants, and if that includes 17 mile around universe destroying colliders, then too fucking bad for you people.

:p:cool:

[newb]

what the fuck....I've been drinking beer everynight, waiting for the world to implode.....and nothing....oh well...A MANS GOTTA DO...WHAT A MANS GOTTA DO.