HDC Weekly Debate #2 - Sociopathic violence : Do movies & videogames play a big role?

[Ferox13]

movies can push people over the edge

Have you any examples of this? I can't think of one.

this has happened in the past due to poverty , etc .. but it's so much worse now - and by choice.. our values are changing ... a lot of people are losing a sense of what a healthy society is (except for the ones who go to the other extreme and are freakish about it)

This is a very common arguement. Every generation thinks that theirs its a society with worse moral problems/crime/poverty than the ones that proceeded it. This is simplying not true. Which would you consider safer the the New York now or that of 100 years ago.

However despite the decrease in crime - the has been a biiger increase in the reporting of crime and also the medias depiction of it and the creation of moral panics.

Look at the 1980s where America was in a panic about the kidnappings of children by satanic cults.

[pinkfloyd45769]

I guess i'm a bad mom!My 3 yr old loves scary movies,his fave is Halloween.He has masks,dolls,figures,clothes,almost every horror movie ever made.He isnt violent or anything,he never gets scared either.I think its not what parents allow their kids to watch,its how well they explain the reality and the make believe.

[Ferox13]

I think its not what parents allow their kids to watch,its how well they explain the reality and the make believe.

Yes i agree with this to some extent but i'm a little unsure about showing a 3 year old scenes of teens fucking and then getting knifed on the way to getting a beer..

I'm not a parent but one thing i'd have to thing i think i'd draw the line is showing them films which contains sexual violence.

[pinkfloyd45769]

Originally Posted by Ferox13

Yes i agree with this to some extent but i'm a little unsure about showing a 3 year old scenes of teens fucking and then getting knifed on the way to getting a beer..

I'm not a parent but one thing i'd have to thing i think i'd draw the line is showing them films which contains sexual violence.

I sit with the remote in my hand a ffwd through that.I'm not a complete idiot.:rolleyes:

[Ferox13]

or and also sorry the sexual violence wasn't about halloween. i just reread what i wrote and it looked like it was . i meant ther films such as Last House etc

[pinkfloyd45769]

I have never showed him those ones.He has alot of the old ones like Frankenstein and Dracula.He loves scifi and horror.When he learns how to type he will be on hdc!

[urgeok2]

Originally Posted by Ferox13

This is a very common arguement. Every generation thinks that theirs its a society with worse moral problems/crime/poverty than the ones that proceeded it. This is simplying not true. Which would you consider safer the the New York now or that of 100 years ago.
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it's a common arguement because there is a lot of truth to it.
we have different moral problems/crime/etc than the generations before us.

where there are some checks and balances in place (police in schools, better strategies dealing with crime) the problems are bigger with broken families and unwanted kids. it isnt just inner city anymore - its far more widespread.

there is more access to negative images than ever before and more kids in the position to be negatively influenced by it.

most well adjusted kids in well adjusted families arent at risk - except as victims of the criminals.

i cant speak to new york now or 100 years ago becauyse i wasnt around 100 years ago and i dont live there.

i can speak to changes in the last 45+ years that i've seen before my eyes,.

it would be foolish to deny some things havent gotten worse. and the blueprints are laid down now for things to get even worse in the near future.

[pinkfloyd45769]

100 years ago there was no INTERNET!! I think it has a big impact on things as well.

[Ferox13]

Ok i@m not American but just using that as an example - Violent crime seems have declined greatly since the 70's for a start.



I know this is just one aspect but these figures would ssuggest to me that the USA is now a safer place (with regard to crime) than it was in 1974.

[stubbornforgey]

I don't know about the rest of the world but i can honestly say that n.z youths do in fact copycat everything that comes out of America.
Em talking from the way they dress to the way they talk to the way they act and thier fav copycat game is grand autotheft .
There has been such an upsurge in violence in my country that its barely deemed safe anymore...and yes...they think its ok becos if its not ..why would these games be allowed to be sold in shops and without proper parent consent. ALSO
Em no critic really ..but the black culture should be held responsible for many of the crime sprees as to what they proudly rant on about in thier rap songs..
They are impressionable and they know it.
They have started such a culture of hate amongst the youths around the globe becos of thier own demise..
I would gladly sign a petition banning the sale of rap and hip hop music.
Vulgar..violent and down right pathetic.