Do You Vote?

[Psycom5k]

I votedc for the first time 4 years ago, and look what happened, the asshole I voted against got elected. However I do plan on voting again this year. I didn't get a chance to vote tuesday but I will make sure of it in november.

I vote, because if I don't It would be like a big fuck you to everyone before me that ever died for out country. I know it sounds kinda cheesey but thats how I feel.

[VampiricClown]

Originally Posted by Angra

A black man against a woman..

This is indeed an election to remember.


Look at the bright side. It can't get any worse.

I personally look at both to be a problem.

Before I say why:

I am not Racist, nor Sexist.

The problem with Obama:

One, as I've already mentioned before, he is Muslim, and has claimed to still be of that religion. And why would we want someone in (somewhat) control of our country, that could technically be on the same side as the people that we are currently at war with?

Two, there are a lot of racist people out there. Thus causing possible assassination attempts.

The problem with Hillary:

Has no one thought about the fact that other countries do not respect women? Here, we do. We are (for the majority) nice to women. In other countries, women are slaves, and are treated like crap.

Does no one think that, that could possibly create yet another war? :confused:

[novadawn969]

Originally Posted by VampiricClown

I personally look at both to be a problem.

Before I say why:

I am not Racist, nor Sexist.

The problem with Obama:

One, as I've already mentioned before, he is Muslim, and has claimed to still be of that religion. And why would we want someone in (somewhat) control of our country, that could technically be on the same side as the people that we are currently at war with?

Two, there are a lot of racist people out there. Thus causing possible assassination attempts.

The problem with Hillary:

Has no one thought about the fact that other countries do not respect women? Here, we do. We are (for the majority) nice to women. In other countries, women are slaves, and are treated like crap.

Does no one think that, that could possibly create yet another war? :confused:

Ah honey... you are so misled.
But I do agree with the fact that a lot of people are.
They are racist and blind.

I work with a Muslim. Her and her family are the nicest people I've ever met.
Many people think that all Muslims abuse their women.
Not them. They treat their women better than most Caucasian fuckers.
Never assume that everyone of a certain race or religion is like the extremists.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/globalconnec...men/index.html

You don't see my grandmother prosecuting protestants. :p

And just because other countries don't respect women doesn't mean we should hinder them from what we believe.
There have even been woman leaders in those countries.
Google it!






And I'm not trying to bash you Vamp... Just ignorant people in general.






Whew! I think my laziness is gone!

On to other threads!!! :D

[IggysPinkTights]

yup...and *hopefully* going to see my candidate in May.

[IggysPinkTights]

Originally Posted by VampiricClown

I personally look at both to be a problem.

Before I say why:

I am not Racist, nor Sexist.

The problem with Obama:

One, as I've already mentioned before, he is Muslim, and has claimed to still be of that religion. And why would we want someone in (somewhat) control of our country, that could technically be on the same side as the people that we are currently at war with?

Two, there are a lot of racist people out there. Thus causing possible assassination attempts.

The problem with Hillary:

Has no one thought about the fact that other countries do not respect women? Here, we do. We are (for the majority) nice to women. In other countries, women are slaves, and are treated like crap.

Does no one think that, that could possibly create yet another war? :confused:

He's a Christian and claims to be a Christian he's never once said that he was a Muslim.
He DID live in a Muslim country and attended a Muslim school for 2 years (and a Catholic one afterwards for 2 years)
He wasn't RAISED Muslim and as far as I know is not a practitioner of this faith.



Oh and just b/c there's a whole bunch of racism and sexism does not mean that we shouldn't further our country and make it equal for women and different races and I don't see our having a Hillary OR Obama as president a war making decision.
Here we have a white male that put us at war. *shrugs*

Just MHO. :)

/off soapbox

[Despare]

Originally Posted by IggysPinkTights

Oh and just b/c there's a whole bunch of racism and sexism does not mean that we shouldn't further our country and make it equal for women and different races.

It is equal... they're running aren't they?

[IggysPinkTights]

You are right they are ...maybe I worded that wrong....but I don't feel that they are considered equal.
If the reasoning behind not voting for someone is religion/race/sex then the pros and cons of voting/not voting for someone is not equal.
If all you see is someones skin color or the God they worship then no they aren't being considered as an equal amongst their fellow candidates.
If people don't want to vote for them so be it but I don't think that the reasons listed above should even be an issue.
If alot of people ignored all ^^^^^^^^(that) then the fact that they are of a different race and the first woman running would never be an issue.

[Despare]

Originally Posted by IggysPinkTights

You are right they are ...maybe I worded that wrong....but I don't feel that they are considered equal.
If the reasoning behind not voting for someone is religion/race/sex then the pros and cons of voting/not voting for someone is not equal.
If all you see is someones skin color or the God they worship then no they aren't being considered as an equal amongst their fellow candidates.
If people don't want to vote for them so be it but I don't think that the reasons listed above should even be an issue.
If alot of people ignored all ^^^^^^^^(that) then the fact that they are of a different race and the first woman running would never be an issue.

If you want a person who upholds your values and ideals then you should take religion into consideration. I'm sorry but that's a valid attribute to look for in a candidate. Now I don't think race or sex should be an issue but you have to take into account that a lot voters probably find it easier to relate to people of their sex/race which can easily sway a vote or hundred. Anyway, like I said, religion can be important when looking for somebody to vote for and I find nothing wrong with that.

By the by, that's the beauty of freedom, we're allowed accept or be prejudice against anything we want for any reason. What a wonderful woooooooorld...

[IggysPinkTights]

Well that's your opinion that you have every right to have I choose to disagree.:)
BUT in this case if someone is worried about Obama b/c of him being Muslim...he's NOT. :p

[Despare]

Originally Posted by IggysPinkTights

Well that's your opinion that you have every right to have I choose to disagree.:)
BUT in this case if someone is worried about Obama b/c of him being Muslim...he's NOT. :p

You disagree that people should vote for a candidate based on what they believe? That's such an important part of a person, their faith and their convictions (or lack of). I think it's a very important part of who a person really is although I would vote for my favorite candidate even if he or she worshiped Ra, as long as I thought they would do a good job.