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this thread:
worthless opinions a poem A picture of a fetus in a bag (admittedly fake but whatever, it looked so much better in person) how can anyone have complaints?
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It's a fucking moot point... if you've never been through it, then you don't have much to say.
Most will find out that your beliefs or opinions go out the window once you're confronted with the situation. It's easy to say "I would never kill my baby... even if I get raped" if you've never been raped and had to carry the fruit of a heinous crime perpetrated against your own body. It's very easy to say you'd dare to bring a child into this world when you've never been confonted with extreme poverty and have no means to take care of yourself, let alone a child. So unless you've lived through it, your opinion means shit. And I couldn't care less if I get flak for this, so spare me.
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I agree 100%. A rape victim's mindset about her own body, and the feelings she would have for a "life" inside her, conceived after such a heinous deed...is certainly not the same for anyone who isn't in her shoes and says "she should be pro-life about it." No fuckin' way. Thats my 2 cents in.
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Exactly, which is why I don't see the point in continuing a discussion that's going nowhere. Except for maybe a stupid argument and/or 40 more pages of did not...did to...did not......
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Not that it matters a great deal though.:o
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thats some pretty intense propaganda there....
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not trying to piss any pro-lifers off or anything, and obviously the discussion in this thread is already done.....just a big advocate against big government in personal choices... Last edited by Arioch; 10-16-2007 at 08:07 PM.
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Ok I don't have a belief exactly, but more of an idea about this myself. Well basicly this idea of mine is that people have souls, and those souls have to fill a certain requirement in life before they can move on to the after life. Everybodys is different, which is why we all don't die at a certain age, like there is a basic plan that is set from before you were even born, sort of like a destiny, except its ever changing by your actions.
Now the part that is relevent to this thread is that some souls would require somebody being alive for 90 years, and some for maybe 9 days. Which would in turn mean that abortion does have a purpose in life, whether some want to think that its true or not. Like I said, this is not a belief but an idea. Some may think of this as stupid, and possibly ignorant, but thats your opinion and you have your right to that. Therefor I can't really say that I am pro-choice or pro-life, but more pro-destiny, so to speak.
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I think any issues where people get angry enough to do something drastic is an excellent issue to discuss and I am glad it was brought up.
A guy I knew said he was pro-life, and was adament about it-thought women that had abortions were lower than shit. Turn the clock up 5 years later and he gets a girl knocked up...guess who suggests an abortion..not her. My own story.... I get pregnant at 19-not married, the guy is an asshole and we are on the verge of breaking up.... I do happen to be pro-choice but I didn't feel like I could possibly go through with an abortion...just could NOT do it. My decision was made for me with a miscarriage. My aunt- was 23-in school with an abusive boyfriend, she's claimed she was pro-life and all women that had abortions were welfare trash sluts. But who has an abortion? This was a decision that she had a VERY hard time doing and to this day, she feels bad about it. I think for years after her abortion she cried when she saw babies. I think I even wrote about her story a few years back on here. A friend of mine was pregnant at 18, she was pro-life, had the baby....he's the most royally fucked up person I have ever known in my entire life...there are things he has done that if he HAD been aborted...well-let's just say there's at least one girl that would have a decent life right now. Anyway, the first step to making a hot topic less chaotic is to get it DISCUSSED. We ALL want to do the right thing,be the upstanding so and so, whatever... but to test that in real life HUMAN conditions is another story altogether.
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A good point somebody made is how perspective on a matter can change on the basis of personal experience - probably the one thing in here nobody could argue with, or have a legitimate opinion against. Guess one will never know which stance they'd truly take "in theory".
I've said my bit on this one...not saying it's any more or less valid than the others...I got my say on it, and I'm not fanatical about it, or trying to convince anyone else either way - That's why I feel right referring to the thing I go with "pro choice", not "pro MY choice" - It applies to not only the conventional definition, but also in general, the choice to not have to give in to the expectations of others, either way. Believe what you're gonna believe, let it known for the sake of discussion if called upon, just "get" that it's a pretty gray area, even if you stand clearly in the black or white of it. I wasn't initially going to say any more about the matter, but it came to me...so may as well throw in what I had. What I came here in the first place for was to address this: Quote:
Don't rock up here and assume you can tell people to head off on the basis of their views, whether or not you think they're sugarcoated. Dickhead.
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