Unrealistic Movies

[Despare]

Originally Posted by Nchantress

Back to the unrealistic/realistic thing. May I take a stab? Perhaps what Mr. Shady was getting at was possibility? Maybe that's a better term than unrealistic.
I understand why people don't believe in paranormal things, and then the possession stuff, but I think that a good number of those people (if not the majority) believe that there is at least a possibility that they are real. No matter the likelihood.
I tend to like more possible movies myself, because it's scarier to me that what I am seeing could happen.
For instance, I think we would all agree that Vampires and Werewolves don't exist (I don't mean to insult anyone's beliefs). However, we don't know for a fact do we? So it's cool to think, well hey, maybe they do.
Just a thought.

You can think something doesn't exist but you can hardly prove it to be impossible. You touch on werewolf and vampires but really the movies with these creatures are showing possible reactions based on the introduction of a creature into reality. The only thing that MAY not be possible is the creature but the people, the reactions, and the methods used in destroying said creature could be possible. Ever watch Mythbusters? A shark as large as "Jaws" is unlikely to be found, caught, or attack but in the interest of negative proof we'll say we can't prove a shark of that size doesn't exist. The method in which *****SPOILERS****** (heh) the shark is killed, according to Mythbusters, is not possible but they can't test every tank and gas combination in every environment so it's not proved impossible just unlikely. Is Jaws still a realistic movie? It's an exaggeration like most things in movies are. Sure werewolves and vampires exist but not as we know them, they were exaggerations to explain serial killers and unfamiliar rituals (possibly). Have fun, sometimes we think too much.

[Nchantress]

Originally Posted by Despare

You can think something doesn't exist but you can hardly prove it to be impossible. You touch on werewolf and vampires but really the movies with these creatures are showing possible reactions based on the introduction of a creature into reality. The only thing that MAY not be possible is the creature but the people, the reactions, and the methods used in destroying said creature could be possible. Ever watch Mythbusters? A shark as large as "Jaws" is unlikely to be found, caught, or attack but in the interest of negative proof we'll say we can't prove a shark of that size doesn't exist. The method in which *****SPOILERS****** (heh) the shark is killed, according to Mythbusters, is not possible but they can't test every tank and gas combination in every environment so it's not proved impossible just unlikely. Is Jaws still a realistic movie? It's an exaggeration like most things in movies are. Sure werewolves and vampires exist but not as we know them, they were exaggerations to explain serial killers and unfamiliar rituals (possibly). Have fun, sometimes we think too much.

I think that what you just said, is another way of putting what I said. Forgive me if I am misunderstanding you. I don't believe I was talking about anything being impossible. I was using some "mythical" creatures to illustrate my point that movies with plot lines that are possible if not at all likely, are more entertaining to me. I didn't say that the existance of such creatures as vampires and werewolves is impossible at all, just that I think most of us would say they don't exist, however, we don't know. And the fact that we don't know for sure, as with possesion, is more scary to me.
Also, I was talking about the movie type characters of vampires and werewolves. Not the people in our society that call themselves vampires. Forgive me once again, but I'm not aware of any werewolves "as we know them", could you enlighten me? To answer your question, is Jaws a realistic movie? Yes, in my way of thinking, because it's possible. As I stated before, possible, no matter the likelihood. Perhaps you misunderstood me?

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by Despare

Sure werewolves and vampires exist but not as we know them, they were exaggerations to explain serial killers and unfamiliar rituals (possibly).

Maybe 200 years ago, but in a modern context, no, they dont. if we are talking in the context of different time periods, then real becomes very subjective in terms of belief. Sure, they were REAL back in the dark ages, but so are UFOs and El Chupacabras these days, to a great number of people. Who knows in 200 years, though?

[Despare]

Originally Posted by Vodstok

Maybe 200 years ago, but in a modern context, no, they dont. if we are talking in the context of different time periods, then real becomes very subjective in terms of belief. Sure, they were REAL back in the dark ages, but so are UFOs and El Chupacabras these days, to a great number of people. Who knows in 200 years, though?

I'm talking about the creation of the creatures and villainizing "monsters" rather than show human beings as evil. I'm not saying we blame those types of murders on werewolves and vampires now but simply saying they're an exaggeration of human beings. I brought this up mainly because of the Halloween reference because Michael is an exaggeration of a serial killer...

[urgeok]

Vod's afraid of bunnies

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by Despare

I'm talking about the creation of the creatures and villainizing "monsters" rather than show human beings as evil. I'm not saying we blame those types of murders on werewolves and vampires now but simply saying they're an exaggeration of human beings. I brought this up mainly because of the Halloween reference because Michael is an exaggeration of a serial killer...

Spree killer. :D

He doesnt wait weeks months or years between killings, he performs many in a short period of times, hours or days.


Actual Serial Killers in movies are pretty rare.

[Despare]

Originally Posted by Vodstok

Spree killer. :D

He doesnt wait weeks months or years between killings, he performs many in a short period of times, hours or days.


Actual Serial Killers in movies are pretty rare.

Yep, Michael's an exaggeration. I can see a little bit of why people like more "realistic" movies. When you make a more "realistic" serial killer movie, maybe something like Henry, the "realistic" killer is more disturbing than the "monster".

[Zero]

Originally Posted by Despare

Yep, Michael's an exaggeration. I can see a little bit of why people like more "realistic" movies. When you make a more "realistic" serial killer movie, maybe something like Henry, the "realistic" killer is more disturbing than the "monster".

i always thought michael was an interesting amalgam of both the realistic and they mythic. in one regard, he is a serial/spree killer - on another level, as carpenter's film sketches and later sequels spell out explicitly, he is a force of cosmic vengeance - a personfication of evil at the most transcendent level - the bogeyman literally

[Despare]

Originally Posted by Zero

he is a force of cosmic vengeance - a personfication of evil at the most transcendent level - the bogeyman literally

The sequels do spell this out which makes a very unlikely but possible character into an impossibility. That's if the series changed the character, if they simply expounded on who he already was then he was an impossibility from the beginning. Hmmm. Anyway, to finish my participation in this thread while the thread is still good I do like both realistic and unrealistic movies. I don't think I could pick a favorite because while most of the movies I like would be considered unrealistic the amount of those movies available far outweight the realistic ones.

[urgeok]

i never saw michael/the shape as anything more than a vehicle to deliver scares .. i cant see any symbolism or social significance in the movies ..
any more than a roller coaster ride ..

he exists because carpenter wanted to scare the shit out of people .. nothing more nothing less (in my eyes anyway)