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Old 09-07-2006, 11:24 AM
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Bree has a great deal of respect for all life. if possible, she will avoid killing anythign, even spiders, which she is terrified of. She even would have preferred to not kill the neast that terrorized her last week, but she was protecting our baby, and she would wrestle a bull elephant to do that. :)
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:24 PM
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so happy my threads stir such emotion and debate:D

Thought I should share an incident that took me off pets. I was babysitting my nieces and one of their bitches just had a litter. In the middle of the night one of the puppies managed to crawl through a small hole in the chicken wire around thier doghouse. It went missing the whole day. When I found it the following day in a small hole (in the neighdors torn-up yard) it was covered in ants and maggots, but still alive.

I cleaned the bugs off but saw there was a gash running the length of the puppies back (probably from the chicken wire) and the gash was crawling with maggots and ants.

The puppy was feably yelping in pain. The nieces we distressed. I called my brother and asked what he wanted me to do and he told me to put the puppy out of its misery. So i broke its neck.

Haven't been too big on pets since.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:38 PM
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so happy my threads stir such emotion and debate:D

Thought I should share an incident that took me off pets. I was babysitting my nieces and one of their bitches just had a litter. In the middle of the night one of the puppies managed to crawl through a small hole in the chicken wire around thier doghouse. It went missing the whole day. When I found it the following day in a small hole (in the neighdors torn-up yard) it was covered in ants and maggots, but still alive.

I cleaned the bugs off but saw there was a gash running the length of the puppies back (probably from the chicken wire) and the gash was crawling with maggots and ants.

The puppy was feably yelping in pain. The nieces we distressed. I called my brother and asked what he wanted me to do and he told me to put the puppy out of its misery. So i broke its neck.

Haven't been too big on pets since.
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J/k. I can see how that would traumatize you. A friend of mine flipped a dead hedgehog over with a stick once when i was 11. the underside was crawling with maggots. scared the shit out of me and i have had a fear of dead things ever since. Even dead bugs freak me out.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:49 PM
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a friend of mine hit a cat with his car ... it came out of these bull rushes at the side of the road - he had no chance to stop.

when i got out it was writhing all over the road like it had 10,000 volts running through it. Its back was obviously badly broken and was suffering horribly.

I dont know where i got the strength but i went over and put my foot on its throat and suffocated it.

that was over 20 years ago and i'll never get that image out of my head if i live to be 200.


as far as the debate goes ... not being a religious person i have a hard time with the arguement with animals vs people ...
i can see both sides of the arguement clearly - but i do know this .. no animal ever threatened to destroy the planet before - except us.

fucking dinosaurs .. massive creatures that struggled for life every day of their lives - existed for over 250 million years and left the planet the way they found it.

in a fraction of that time that compares to a blink of an eye - 'man' has managed to put an entire planet on the edge of destruction .. in more than just a couple of ways.

we all work, sleep, eat, contribute (or not) try to meet our goals, breed, attemp a better future for our children .. but the long and short of it is : man is the foulest disease ever let loose on this planet.

on a more shallow level - yeah - i feel very sorry for animals that die in real life as a result of intentional harm .. they dont know what the hell is going on.

in a movie - i could care less .. that dog/cat actor probably just made more in that movie than my entire salary for the past year.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:59 PM
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Once when I was a kid I came into my room to find my hamster cage on the floor all open, sawdust everywhere etc. Hamster was missing :( (The cat had taken it...)

Went looking for it, found it in next door neighbours garden just laying in the dirt, leg missing, belly open, still alive but obviously dying very slowly and painfully...

No one was in so had to sort it out myself, put it in a bag and took a hammer to its head...I was only young, but knew it was the only thing that could be done. Took a while to get over...Needless to say I didnt get a new hampster. :(

We've had a few cats, and whenever they catch a mouse they play with it...its like half alive and they dont finish the job, they just play with it...I've always thought cats were evil :P
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Old 09-07-2006, 01:40 PM
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Did everyone here forget that the dog is rabid? I would be overjoyed to see a dead rabid dog as opposed to a live one.
The picture of the human would be more disturbing to me and that wouldnt be very disturbing at all.
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Old 09-07-2006, 01:56 PM
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I find it disgusting when animals have that have broken loose from fields/circuses/zoos etc. are shot down as a precaution. It's a quick and easy solution.

And I cheer when I see footage of bullfighters and bullrunners getting gored and elephant 'tamers' stamped on. It seems like straightforward revenge.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:14 PM
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I think its excellent when Bull fighters get nailed by the Bull...what they do is harsh, really sick. However the Bull will always get killed in the end even if it does get to do some damage. :(
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:32 PM
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as far as the debate goes ... not being a religious person i have a hard time with the arguement with animals vs people ...
i can see both sides of the arguement clearly - but i do know this .. no animal ever threatened to destroy the planet before - except us.

fucking dinosaurs .. massive creatures that struggled for life every day of their lives - existed for over 250 million years and left the planet the way they found it.

in a fraction of that time that compares to a blink of an eye - 'man' has managed to put an entire planet on the edge of destruction .. in more than just a couple of ways.

I totallly agree with you. So where did we go wrong? It seems almost as if our advancement is an illusion. It's like we evolved to tribal society, living on the land with tides of the seasons, and then went down hill, even though we came up with all of this great shit to play with and do. I'm not saying that tribal life was perfect, but they didn't exploit the land, because they respected it too damn much. They knew better. Read the legends of the Native Americans, the African tribes, even the ancient Europeans...all of the old agrarian societies were like that. You respected the land and the animals, because without them, you were fucked.

We think that we have this "God given right" to live here. That's what mainstream religion teaches, anyway, and even non religious folk hold this too (begging your pardon, Urge) because those mainstream religions have so fully infultrated almost every nook of our thinking (or lack there of).

So if we fuck everything and kill ourselves, which we are heading towards...directly, then imagine what other processes we're going to screw up. It's the old "Take 'em down with me" thing."
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Old 09-07-2006, 06:04 PM
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Reliance on technology is the short answer, and the proverb 'The Devil makes work for idle hands' springs to mind.

Humans only have a few basic instincts to rely on, and the brain can be lethal when it starts to wander.

It's all part of the human package one supposes - I'd rather be me than a rat, faults and all.
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