You wanna see the devil??

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by devilsbackbone
sounds good to me! so u kno him personally? yeah i talked to some demons the other day and they gave me pigs blood and well i personally like goats blood but eh ya cant always get wat u want. im just messn w/ you! but that is weird scripturers from the ancient times, makes me wonder if youre lieing? well, not lieing just messing with ppls heads! its fun isnt it! although some ppl may not take this lightly but i like it ya kno the whold devil thing. yeah he exsists but if you cant joke aboot a religion then wats the point of having one?:D

Sure you can joke about religion, I joke about mine all the time, its all in fun but not believing in the mainstream doesnt make you a loser as some have said. And no I dont know the Devil on a personal level, he/she wouldnt want to deal with the likes of me anyway.

[billbundix]

O.K. sorry, maybe i was a little to quick to pass judgement. i had just gotten home from a 16 hour shift and i wasnt thinking too clearly. maybe what i should have said was that people should not believe everything they read. Crowley was great at what he did, and i'm sure he truely believed in everything he wrote and did. but, he wasnt as original as everyone wants to believe. what crowley was best at was traveling around, meeting a lot of people with a lot of different ideals, and choosing the ones that he believed he could market. the man had to make a living. i mean he was practically the "jimmy swaggart" of the occultists, he used sex, drugs, and a vivid imagination to manipulate weak minded people into doing his bidding. which is great, more power to him. as far as lavey is concerned, i cant say that i respect him as much. he used even less imagination, although he still accomplished his goals. but never the less, if either of them had found a way to communicate with "satan", surely you would have heard of it by now.

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by billbundix
O.K. sorry, maybe i was a little to quick to pass judgement. i had just gotten home from a 16 hour shift and i wasnt thinking too clearly. maybe what i should have said was that people should not believe everything they read. Crowley was great at what he did, and i'm sure he truely believed in everything he wrote and did. but, he wasnt as original as everyone wants to believe. what crowley was best at was traveling around, meeting a lot of people with a lot of different ideals, and choosing the ones that he believed he could market. the man had to make a living. i mean he was practically the "jimmy swaggart" of the occultists, he used sex, drugs, and a vivid imagination to manipulate weak minded people into doing his bidding. which is great, more power to him. as far as lavey is concerned, i cant say that i respect him as much. he used even less imagination, although he still accomplished his goals. but never the less, if either of them had found a way to communicate with "satan", surely you would have heard of it by now.

Thanks for the apology, it is accepted, I understand that things can get rough sometimes and you say things before you think, I am guilty of this also. First I want to say Crowley was not a satanist, nor am I a satanist. I practice a religion that has been persecuted for hundreds of years from the inqusition to the Salem witch trials. So it gets under my skin a little when people, who usually dont know what they are speaking of critize my beliefs or others. I could go on and on about Christianitys faults, from the Crusades to the latest Catholic church scandals, but I dont. I keep my thoughts to my inner circles and dont publicly bash any religion no matter how much I disagree with it. There are bad apples in all sects and beliefs and they give the rest of us a bad name. Witches dont turn people into toads, we dont summon or worship the devil, and we dont send our familiars to steal the breath from babies. It can all be traced to ignorance or fear and fear is usually derived from that ignorance. Sure it may seem strange to some that people of India consider a cow sacred, or the people of the orient worship Budda, or the aboriginies in Austrailia consider the Earth as their mother, and it may seem strange to some that I practice Wicca or Witchcraft for those who are not familiar with the term. But one thing is certain, I dont want anyone to harm themselves with things they dont understand. Sorry if I sound preachy not trying to just would like everyone to understand where I am coming from.

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