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Old 08-24-2004, 05:23 PM
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Ok... Explain how after The battle of Tora Bora in Afganistan.. The Shithead that cut off Nick Burg's Head was treated in A Bagdad Military Hospital?? How is it that the terrorist group in the South was training to hijack Aircraft??? And Have proven ties to groups all over S. E Asia? Proof that the WMD was Moved to syria?

Your right.. Just good deeds by the Peace prize winner Saddam..

He also did not kill his own people... That was Mass suicide when they found out that " Knots Landing" Was cancelled..He did not invade Kuwait... The Entire Iraqi Army simply made a left in stead of a right... OOOPPPPSSS.


The Olympic team when they Lost?? Nope, Not torture!!!!! They just fell down alot....
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Old 08-24-2004, 05:28 PM
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Sure. It basically says that his 'hero' image is largely inflated and not accurate. Of his platoon, only 1 is actually standing by him right now saying that he was a hero, the rest have threatened to sue him if he tries to mention them. It also says he received 3 purple hearts in 4 1/2 months, but 2 of his injuries were self inflicted. Apparently, 3 purple hearts = discharge, so it insinuates that he injured himself twice to fill the quota and get out of the military. He then came back to the U.S. and protested the war. He even wrote an anti-government book, which he has recently tried to buy up every copy of, so that it doesn't get out to the public. He is honored in a museum of communist Vietnam as a 'hero'. Etc...
And all the while stateside George was doing bong rips and cheerleading for Yale.
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:54 PM
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I personally think they're both a couple of penises, but I agree w/ Kerry on the only three issues I really care about, so that's all I'm taking into consideration
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Old 08-25-2004, 03:55 AM
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I suppose anyone who has been following the news knows about the status of this video already knows this. But, I will state what has been brought to light anyway:

1. Nobody on this video was actually with Kerry during the rescue that won him the Purple Heart. They were on boats in the vicinity of Kerry's boat, but not even on Kerry's boat.

2. The only person who has any credibility about what he is saying is the doctor who said: "I nursed the wound that got Kerry the Purple Heart." He's the only one on the video that interacted with Kerry personally. But even this guy was not on the boat.

3. There is controversy as to whether or not the troops were actually under fire when Kerry pulled that guy out of the water. But the fact that another soldier won a Purple Heart for his efforts during the same conflict proves that they had to have been under fire at some time.

4. The guy that Kerry pulled out of the water vouches for his heroism, and stands by him.

5. The soldiers that were on the boat with Kerry at the time are standing by him.

6. This video was put together by veterans who are pissed off that Kerry protested the Vietnam War after he served his time. What the fuck is that all about? Kerry HAD to serve, and he did. When he had done his time, he practiced his freedom of speech and stood up for what he disagreed with! It's a fundamental American right, and the vets are pissed because they didn't like what he had to say. Kerry protested, and he had every right to do so. I can't stand it when people say I'm anti-American for speaking out against the decisions that America makes that I disagree with. In my eyes, speaking your mind is NOT anti-American, if we say that America = freedom. Making someone be quiet and stand up for whatever America decides to do IS anti-American.

Basically, the Republicans are worried that they're going to lose this vote (as they should be), and are using any underhanded tactics they can to smear Kerry. True, this video was not supported by the Bush campaign, but they sure did nothing to say that they do not endorse what it claims.
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Old 08-25-2004, 06:20 AM
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God, I love your posts Stingy.

Now that I know what the video is about, and have heard all the arguments, I'm even MORE in favor of Kerry.

To the person who said they think Bush is a "good person" - can't you tell a liar when you see one? You can see the gleam in his eye. You can tell when he makes his bullshit speeches that he's trying his hardest not to laugh the entire time.

This is not a personal attack on you, but you can't tell me that you don't see these things.
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Old 08-25-2004, 02:10 PM
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God, I love your posts Stingy.

Now that I know what the video is about, and have heard all the arguments, I'm even MORE in favor of Kerry.

To the person who said they think Bush is a "good person" - can't you tell a liar when you see one? You can see the gleam in his eye. You can tell when he makes his bullshit speeches that he's trying his hardest not to laugh the entire time.

This is not a personal attack on you, but you can't tell me that you don't see these things.
Agreed. Bush wants to be President simply because he wants to be President. He has no interest in doing what is right for the American people, be it by way of education, unemployment, or tax breaks (for anyone who is not upper class). It's a simple power-trip. He's in power, and he wants to stay there ... for no other reason than it brings him power.

As for Vietnam ... Bush did serve in the Air Force, but thanks to the strings pulled by his father, he was never sent overseas. Kerry's father could have done the same for him, but he didn't. Kerry served in Vietnam; and according to the people who actually served with him, he did his job there. Then he came back and protested. If the vets have a problem with protesting, what the fuck are they fighting for? Certainly not freedom.
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Old 08-25-2004, 02:34 PM
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Agreed. Bush wants to be President simply because he wants to be President. He has no interest in doing what is right for the American people, be it by way of education, unemployment, or tax breaks (for anyone who is not upper class). It's a simple power-trip. He's in power, and he wants to stay there ... for no other reason than it brings him power.

As for Vietnam ... Bush did serve in the Air Force, but thanks to the strings pulled by his father, he was never sent overseas. Kerry's father could have done the same for him, but he didn't. Kerry served in Vietnam; and according to the people who actually served with him, he did his job there. Then he came back and protested. If the vets have a problem with protesting, what the fuck are they fighting for? Certainly not freedom.
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Old 08-27-2004, 03:35 AM
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Well, you're right about that, ylm. Kerry does need to shut-up about Vietnam. The constant references are insulting our intelligence. It's like he thinks we'll forget about his time served if he doesn't constantly remind us.
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