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Taom 01-13-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by newb
Way to heavy for me.....especially on a friday afternoon when all i have on my mind at the moment is a nice cold beer.:D

I was thinking the same thing newb...

I had dinner at Mavericks Steakhouse and a number of beers before work :cool:
And I'm hoping to go home early so I can drink some more.
Perhaps tommorrow when I'm hungover and smoking way too much I'll touch this one, but friday afternoon is not the time for serious discussion.

VampiricClown 01-13-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by Taom
I was thinking the same thing newb...

I had dinner at Mavericks Steakhouse and a number of beers before work :cool:
And I'm hoping to go home early so I can drink some more.
Perhaps tommorrow when I'm hungover and smoking way too much I'll touch this one, but friday afternoon is not the time for serious discussion.

Can't handle the pressure???:D

wood_elf_pansy 01-13-2006 12:21 PM

I agree with you Rayne. I am the farthest thing from racist. I have family that are of a different race than myself, my step son for example is Venezuelan and South American. I just don't see how racism is going to stop or decrease if people keep putting so much into it. Why can't we all just forgive and forget and make life so much easier for everyone?

that's all I will say.

Haunted 01-13-2006 01:26 PM

The thing that affects minorities today isn't so much racial as socio-economic. For instance, if we look at the Civil Rights movement as the mechanism to help minorities (in this case, mostly black minorities) assimilate into the career world and elevate in that infrastructure we're going to see some lag. It's only been forty or so odd years since the Civil Rights movement. People have had a hard time advancing in the professional world.

If you want to look at Latinos then we have a different situation. In the late 1800's and early 1900's we had a mass immigration of Italian and other eastern European nationalities. They didn't come to America speaking English. People thought they were dirty and ignorant. So, they could only advance so far in the working world, and we're talking about inner cities. Over time, they've become part of American culture. It took over a hundred years, though.

The big group that part of my family is actually apart of are the Native Americans. They DON'T WANT to assimilate. They want to maintain their own culture without much interferance. You may say, "Yeah, but Haunted, what about the casinos?" Many Native American groups don't want to be associated with those casinos. Those casinos were an act of desperation. It's very ridiculous and very sad the conditions that many Native Americans live in as they are forced to sort of be a tourist attraction or novelty.

However, they've got several programs and various efforts to reestablish their heritage and work toward the betterment of their people.

As for racism itself: There's no excuse for it. In fact, there is no such thing as race. It's ethnicity. By and large human beings are biologically identical. We've developed skin colorations and hair textures for adaptive purposes. Race indicates different types of humans, which there aren't any.

knife_fight 01-13-2006 01:28 PM

about 5 years ago the gubment handed out money to Native Americans. my dad had enough Creek "in him" to get some of the money, but he turned it down, because he didn't feel it was right to take it. not that he's rich or anything, he just felt the money should go to people who really needed it.

Taom 01-13-2006 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by VampiricClown
Can't handle the pressure???:D
It's not that. I love a good serious debate. But this is friday, and my only concern is getting off work early tonight so that I can go party it up >:] I do have some opinions to express on the issue, but it'll have to wait till tommorrow. While I'm at work, I do have broadband connection, but I get inturrupted alot, so writing a long post while at work just doesn't work. My train of thought get's broken toodamn much just leaving a post as long as this one. :(

AUSTIN316426808 01-13-2006 04:41 PM

I don't have anything to say besides how much I love that ''forgive and forget'' statement.

sabersword 01-13-2006 06:14 PM

A action
 
Is it just me, or does it seem like people are out to play an angle. Get somthing for nothing, or, just screw you. I have known people of most raceses, and, on the face of it, we all suck. Were the blacks inslaved? Was this country taken away from the native americans? Hell, did the Irish get a bad deal at the turn of the century? Welcome to the real world! Do I seem bitter,Im not, just tired of all the whining.

newb 01-13-2006 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by knife_fight
about 5 years ago the gubment handed out money to Native Americans. my dad had enough Creek "in him" to get some of the money, but he turned it down, because he didn't feel it was right to take it. not that he's rich or anything, he just felt the money should go to people who really needed it.
You should be proud of your dad...a most honorable man.

Taom 01-13-2006 06:33 PM

I agree with newb.....It's good to hear about a man, of any ethnicity, not taking a hand out. Most of the time you only hear about the people who live off handouts.


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