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08-29-2004, 07:48 PM
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6 would be still be better than 2. Sure people would be split 6 ways, but at least they'd be split towards someone they can agree with on all issues/relate to. Right now, you get 2 choices. And in recent years, both have been shitty every election. So who do you lean to? The one that you feel is the least shitty. Well, that sucks. I don't want to vote anyone into the most powerful position in the world if I have even the slightest feeling that they are in any way shitty.
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08-29-2004, 07:53 PM
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ive said it once and ill say it again
with every solution is 10 more problems created aint that easy. better to work with what u got (especially when it isnt even that bad to begin with) than to whine all the time
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08-29-2004, 08:17 PM
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All I gotta say is fuck John Kerry....
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   Jesus had a tough life. I read about that guy. Jesus is the only guy that ever came back from the dead that didn't scare the F--- out of everybody! -Sam Kinison
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08-29-2004, 08:46 PM
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Fuck that! How much say does the average joe have in who is running for office? Very little. Who are elected officials supposed to be representing? The average joe. :rolleyes: So why don't we (the average joe and janes of the country) have any say in who runs for office? That's weak. I can gurantee you that there are people out there who would be waaay better than either one of these two clowns. :mad:
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08-29-2004, 09:12 PM
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according to who.... you?
just like i said earlier. with every solutoin are 10 problems. if things were changed to mkae YOU happy then that would make all the other people who are happy now, unhappy. its a never ending cycle. so like i said, work with what ya have. bitch and complain if you want, but fact is SOMEONE is going to be bitching and complaining no matter WHAT the situation.....
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08-29-2004, 09:24 PM
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Of course they are. We know that you can't please everyone.
But if you're rational, there are ways of compromising so that people are mostly happy. When's the last time you or your parents or anyone you know had any actual input into who our two choices for President are? Probably never. So who are the ones making the choices of who runs? The ones that are already in power. Would they ever willingly let a new contender come in and try to get some of that power? No way. They'd do everything in their power to stop that from happening. So how can that change? You are saying you don't think it can because it would cause different problems. By saying that you are indirectly saying you have resigned yourself to being a complacent person. You are happy with what you are provided and don't want anything better. You go with the flow. You're one of the herd. Congratualtions, you are doing exactly what the parties that have the power want you to do. That's not for me though. P.S. Intellectual discussion regarding politics is not whining. It's conversation and sometimes debate.
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08-29-2004, 09:31 PM
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do we have time to do everything? city electoins are coming up, for an average joe to get in on the action. im gonna be a cop, as much as id like to get more of a hold on politics, i cant. and if i really wanted to, thats what id do, is run.
are any of you running to be part of the board? not governor, not even senator, but even of any of the several committees eg the ones that check for squandering perhaps? sure, my parents dont have a say in who to vote for other than to just chose between a or b, but do they necessarily care? yes it is whining. because YOU are whining yet you do nothing. what good is it to whine on an internet forum? are yuo helping anything? its very easy to whine about how we dont hav any candidates, its another to get out there and do something me. i dont care. whether or not we went to war, either 1 group or a tnoehr group would be pissed. thats politics. which is why i choose not to get involved. which is why i dont COMPLAIN...
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08-29-2004, 09:40 PM
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well how about if i say all you that wear hot topic are just hot topic sheep? they all come from the same sweatshop ya know i go with the flow. sure. why? becuase i have other things that im busy worrying about. my focus isnt on complaining about something that im not gonna step up and make a difference about. at some point, werent bush, clinton, kerry, gephardt... all part of the 'herd' at some point? werent they all nobodies? the difference being between them and the rest of their classmates is for hwtaever reason they decided to do MOre than that. is there anything wrong with that? no. is there anything wrong with the others that followed the 'herd'? no. we dont all have TIME to be different. if we all went against the herd, then wouldnt we be creating our own herd that were follwing? honestly. relating to Jay's thread.. if theres ANYTHING i hate bout HDC, its all this 'oh your a sheep' 'oh your not an individual' 'your just like everyone else' crap........ do i sit here and follow some handbook to 'fit in' and be 'normal'? no. i do what i want, i look the way i do becuase its easy and i dont givadamn about how i look. same goes with politics. if i was passionate about it then yes id complain, meaning id do like with what Kery did and speak out about the war. how many people out there can say they spoken in front of the US supreme court? im feeling stingyesque tonight.
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08-29-2004, 09:46 PM
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First of all, your entire post is a complaint so come on down off your high horse. This is a thread about politics, I was under the impression I could post my political opinions here. Maybe that's not the case... Secondly, how would you know whether or not I'm involved in politics? You wouldn't. I'm only 24 so, no, I haven't held any political office as of yet. Does that mean that I don't intend to or that I'm not inolved in politics? No. I actually do plan on running for city office in the next decade (Once I own a house and have a city to call my own and represent.) I have always taken an active role in taking care of things I want to get done. I was class president in 8th grade, student council 9th, 10th, and 11th grade and class vice president in 12 grade. While I was in college, I was actively volunteering my time to help other students register to vote. I can gurantee you I plan to do a hell of a lot more for what I believe in that just sit there and pick from 'a' or 'b'. Who says cops can't hold public office? Be the commissioner or the chief of police. Stand up for yourself. Raise your voice. Don't be content to be a number in the system.
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#90
08-29-2004, 09:51 PM
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How many people can say they are recognized as a hero to the communists? I'm not calling you a sheep, but if you admittedly see a problem with the system, yet remain complacent in doing nothing about it, that would make you one. And yes, people who buy their clothes at Hot Topic are sheep too.
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