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Old 04-05-2005, 12:53 PM
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Maybe you're right. I'm not crazy about kids dying violently.. but I definitely want them dead if they have an important role in a given movie while everybody else around them dies (i.e. Halloween 4,5).

What do you think of Battle Royale? They were'nt kids, but they were close.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:54 PM
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would you say that all those directors who have worked on rape movies enjoy seeing rape scenes?
i sure hope not.
you're equating a rape scene in an exploitation horror film or a rape scene where something socially relevant is being portrayed ..

are we talking oranges and oranges here ?


i really dont think a child needs to be graphically killed on screen to get the point across to people :

killing children is bad.

unfortunately rape seems to be an acceptable form of recreation for a lot of people.
'she was asking for it' 'she should have known better'
etc ..

thus a film like irriversable that showed on screen what hell it is for a woman to experience such a thing. Unpleasant - but with a purpose.

and i'll bet everyone responsible for that film felt horrible making it.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:57 PM
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Maybe you're right. I'm not crazy about kids dying violently.. but I definitely want them dead if they have an important role in a given movie while everybody else around them dies (i.e. Halloween 4,5).

What do you think of Battle Royale? They were'nt kids, but they were close.
i didnt equate them with kids .. they were young adults ..
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Old 04-05-2005, 01:06 PM
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and i'll bet everyone responsible for that film felt horrible making it.
And they should.
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One of the great taboos, I love seeing the little cherubs get sliced or blown away on-screen - quite simply because it's a hot potato of a thing to depict.

From the ketchup-strewn daftness of Beware! Children at Play to the startlingly nasty carnage of The Untold Story, films with infant deaths always grab the attention, and even moreso if these scenes are graphic and protracted.

One might take the moral stance and object to such scenarios having the audacity to grace the screen on grounds of taste, but anybody with half a brain is aware that a drama is a drama and if the difference between exploitative storytelling and leering stimulation is not clear then best avoid anything with kids in it just to be safe.

Killing children is bad... well so is killing adults - but if we are to enjoy horror movies without needing our little set of dos & donts by our armchairs then you really have to take the rough with the smooth.

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Old 04-05-2005, 05:27 PM
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One of the great taboos, I love seeing the little cherubs get sliced or blown away on-screen - quite simply because it's a hot potato of a thing to depict.

From the ketchup-strewn daftness of Beware! Children at Play to the startlingly nasty carnage of The Untold Story, films with infant deaths always grab the attention, and even moreso if these scenes are graphic and protracted.

One might take the moral stance and object to such scenarios having the audacity to grace the screen on grounds of taste, but anybody with half a brain is aware that a drama is a drama and if the difference between exploitive storytelling and leering stimulation is not clear then best avoid anything with kids in it just to be safe.

Killing children is bad... well so is killing adults - but if we are to enjoy horror movies without needing our little set of dos & donts by our armchairs then you really have to take the rough with the smooth.
you always equate 'grabbing attention' with worthiness ..
why is seeing something just because it's forbidden a justification in itself ..its like playing the devils advocate just to hear yourself talk. it lacks conviction ...
Porn was taboo at one time .. the interest is understandable because sex is a pleasurable thing to watch ...
We're talking horror films and violent child death here.
Its not the kind of exploitation my inner senses want..

it is unpleasant that any person dies.. yes indeed ....
but by the very fact that it is far more horrifying to see a child die by far .. that in itself is enough for the vast majority to determine that they dont relish seeing it.

For many - including myself - watching a horror film doesn't mean constantly forcing ourselves to deal with the deepest darkest foulest parts of the human experience..

fuck - i mean movie watching doesn't have to be an extreme sport 24/7

i get the sense that its like being a junkie .. once you've done it all it has to get harder and harder ..

I just dont feel that way ..There are a lot better ways to grab my attention than butchering a child for the sake of some kind of .. wake up call....

judge me how you will .. it just isnt in my realm of acceptability for whatever makes me the person i am.
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Old 04-05-2005, 05:28 PM
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One of the great taboos, I love seeing the little cherubs get sliced or blown away on-screen - quite simply because it's a hot potato of a thing to depict.

From the ketchup-strewn daftness of Beware! Children at Play to the startlingly nasty carnage of The Untold Story, films with infant deaths always grab the attention, and even moreso if these scenes are graphic and protracted.

One might take the moral stance and object to such scenarios having the audacity to grace the screen on grounds of taste, but anybody with half a brain is aware that a drama is a drama and if the difference between exploitative storytelling and leering stimulation is not clear then best avoid anything with kids in it just to be safe.

Killing children is bad... well so is killing adults - but if we are to enjoy horror movies without needing our little set of dos & donts by our armchairs then you really have to take the rough with the smooth.
I like the way you think.
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does anybody remember a old movie called "THE PIT"?
it has a little boy that finds a pit with some kind of creatures
in it and he killls alot of people by pushing them in that pit
and eventually he dies by them things getting him
i just don't remember how they get to him.

nobody knows what movie i'm talking about
so i thought maybe yous guys can help me.
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Old 04-05-2005, 07:50 PM
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does anybody remember a old movie called "THE PIT"?
it has a little boy that finds a pit with some kind of creatures
in it and he killls alot of people by pushing them in that pit
and eventually he dies by them things getting him
i just don't remember how they get to him.

nobody knows what movie i'm talking about
so i thought maybe yous guys can help me.
:D
Seen it. Don't remember much of it tough.
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