Abortion: Yay or Nay?

[Candy Man]

All I knows is my babys momma be always sweatin me.
I wish her moms had a abortion. Dam.

[fluffho]

one word

perception

there are is no 'is'. just our concept of what 'is'

to one abortion is no big deal to another its murder. things happen for a reason. what about if jeffrey dahmers mother decided to have an abortion rather than to bear a man who killed 14?

on the other hand, what if martin luther king jrs mother decided to have an abortion?

things happen for a reason. whine and bitch and complain all you want people are gonna do it anyway. seems as thuogh stingy is doing pretty well as i know plenty who have had abortions who are doing fine

my friend for one, sure she coulda kept the kid. so baiscally it wouldve been a corporal and a girl who doesnt eeven have her AA raising a child. how fair for the child yeh? instead shes gonna continue onto college and get her BA and become a psychologist. THEN have a child. a much, much more stable life for that child.. at least in MY eyes

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by Egekrusher
That is YOUR choice and YOUR opinions. The fact that you would abandon your sister because of that speaks volumes about what you are really like. You are just as selfish as the people you claim to hate.

I didn't start the name calling, YOU did. And if you think that you'll finish it, you are DEAD wrong.

I dont think she said she abandonned her sister.

I wanted to let sleeping dogs lie, but i cant. People against abortion say life begins at conception, however... there is not yet a universally accepted definition for what constitutes life.

Something like a virus displays most of the attributes of life, including reproduction, but they lack others. So when is a fetus a life? at conception? the very moment the zygote forms? If so, is a woman's body commiting infanticide if the zygote gfails to stick to the uterin wall and is flushed out the next time she has a period? what about a miscarriage?

Going back then, especially with the view that you shoulod expect a kid every time you have sex, do you theb support the Catholic idea that birth control is ALSO murdering the fetus before it ieven has a chance? Where is the line? Then masturbation would be proactive murder every time a guy jerked off.

There is way too much grey area to make black and white judgements on something this important.

[Stingy Jack]

I think Hitler's mom was going to have an abortion, and decided not to. I could be wrong ... need to look that up.

[fluffho]

if thats true..

that pretty much contradicts her "[abortion] will and does ruin lives."

in this case how many lives was it... 5 million?? hmmmmmmmm

[bwind22]

I'm not sure at which point this thread went from a civil conversation/debate to a much more heated, much less fun, flame war, and I really don't care. I'm not gonna point any fingers at anyone, but I am going to be done with this thread.

[Stingy Jack]

I remember reading something about how Hitler's mom had several miscarriages throughout her life, and that the doctors warned her that her pregnancy with Adolf could kill her. She considered abortion, but decided against it because she wante d so desperately to have a child. But, I could be getting my facts confused ... it has been a long time since I read it.

[Stingy Jack]

Originally posted by bwind22
I'm not sure at which point this thread went from a civil conversation/debate to a much more heated, much less fun, flame war, and I really don't care. I'm not gonna point any fingers at anyone, but I am going to be done with this thread.

Well, I haven't flamed anyone, even though my wife and I were indirectly called stupid, lazy and immature.

[Gothic-chick]

Originally posted by Stingy Jack
Meh... As I have already said, my wife got pregnant once before we were ready to have a child. We were careful, used birth control, but it happened. We could not afford to have the baby, and we also could not afford her taking time off from work to carry the baby to term and go through recovery. We both agreed that abortion was the only option, under the circumstances. And we went through with it. She does not regret it, she is not miserable, our lives are not destroyed ... at least, not in the way they would have been had we decided to keep the baby. And this is when we both mature enough to make decisions on our own. You can call us stupid, lazy, or what have you. But, the fact remains that we were careful. We used birth control, and it fucking happened anyway. And don't you sit there and tell me that I should not have sex with my wife if I wasn't ready to have a baby. Do you plan to have a kid every time you have sex with your spouse? Remember, we were protected! So, what's good for some people is not for others. Just because your friend feels she made the wrong choice, and allows herself to dwell in that misery, does not mean that the service is not helpful for others.

I'm not going to sugar coat my feelings for you. You posted what you think on a public board to I'm going to tell you what I think.

I feel sorry for you and your wife. You killed your baby because you didn't have enough money??? I think that's the most pathetic thing I have ever heard in my life. Justify it all you want. It is what it is.

I too had an unplanned pregnancy. She is now 13 years old. The best thing that ever happened to me. At the time I was still living with my parents and the only way my husband and I could make it was to live in a shitty little apartment that reeked of Indian food all of the time. We ate bologna sandwiches and struggled along dealing with the consequences of our ACCIDENT (broken condom). Because we had no insurance,we paid doctor bills for 3 full years before they were finally paid off. It made us stronger than ever and made us strive for a better life. Nothing in life is easy. What the hell is it with people these days who are afraid of struggle? I guess you should thank God your parents didn't look at you like a burden and kill you before you had a chance!

As you may have noticed, This topic pisses me off more than anything in the world.


And yes everytime my husband and I have sex we take the chance of another baby. A baby we are not capable of killing .

[Gothic-chick]

Originally posted by Egekrusher
That is YOUR choice and YOUR opinions. The fact that you would abandon your sister because of that speaks volumes about what you are really like. You are just as selfish as the people you claim to hate.

I didn't start the name calling, YOU did. And if you think that you'll finish it, you are DEAD wrong.

who said I would abandon my sister??? I never said that...... And I never said I hated anyone. Learn to read !


They are my opinions , opinions YOU asked for