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Old 02-04-2005, 11:21 PM
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i always thought that the 70's was one of the greatest decades for filmmaking.. (especially for horror and action) and the end of an era...

I used to wonder why .. was it because i was first watching films then ... was it because they had more grit - more texture ...

then it hit me ... in the 70's horror films were for the most part - movies staring adults .. seasoned actors - mature themes.

In '78 Carpenter came along and showed us how things would change .. an effective, wildly successful film featuring mostly teenagers being dispatched by a madman.. which would set the pace for the next couple of decades.
Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm St ...tons of others ..
The focus was on the teenage demographic.

So now we have a horror film culture that is primarily teen based.
Another major player in this was the VCR. In the past serious horror films were mostly rated R. Kids couldnt get in ..
but now with the VCR kids are seeing more horror films .. becoming more 'jaded' and ate the stuff up creating a demand .. for more teen horror films.

We all know this trend is still strong today with few exeptions.
Its the kids that pay to see films. Adults seem to find it a chore to go to the theatre, and when they rent films for the weekend ... well its generally not some grade c slasher flick.
(i'm talking average joe here - not the folks on this board)

Anyway - this is was the long way of explaining why some people love The Omen and some dont.
You'll find the latter to be young people .. who want to see young bodies in the roles, not people the age of their parents ...which is too bad.
The Omen is one of my favorite films - and i saw it when i was a kid ... but i enjoyed seeing adults being put through the paces .. it seemed far more believable to me than a bunch of sex starved teenage morons being sliced and diced in an abandoned mall.

So when i see a film like the 6th Sense, or The Others come along now, it gives me hope ..
I'm finding it tougher and tougher to enjoy films with shitty actors ..and most teens are just that ...

Not to diss the teens on the forum ... remember .. i felt the same way when i was (gasp) one of you ...
I never even began to look at it that way, you make a really good point. But if you think about it that's not really the whole story for example if you took the cast out of Halloween Resurrection and threw in Gene Hackman, Edward Norton,Johnny Depp and Clint Eastwood do you really think you'd like it? I'm not saying you're wrong I think you've got about 90% of the reason why horror films aren't as good these days.
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:33 PM
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A fun slice of macho mayhem in the form of "Coogan's Bluff".

Given YET ANOTHER career boost with "The Million Dollar Baby" it goes without saying now that, given his success in every decade, in many genres from acting to directing, a mammoth fan base, worldwide fame and a load of awards...he has to go down as perhaps THE most successful all rounder working in films today.
A real Cinematic icon, and to see him get rigfht back on top at the age he is now is justice indeed.
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:40 PM
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A fun slice of macho mayhem in the form of "Coogan's Bluff".

Given YET ANOTHER career boost with "The Million Dollar Baby" it goes without saying now that, given his success in every decade, in many genres from acting to directing, a mammoth fan base, worldwide fame and a load of awards...he has to go down as perhaps THE most successful all rounder working in films today.
A real Cinematic icon, and to see him get rigfht back on top at the age he is now is justice indeed.
I don't think there's any perhaps he's not only the most successful he's the best.
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Old 02-05-2005, 12:22 AM
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I never even began to look at it that way, you make a really good point. But what if you think about it that's not really the whole story for example if you took the cast out of Halloween Resurrection and threw in Gene Hackman, Edward Norton,Johnny Depp and Clint Eastwood do you really think you'd like it? I'm not saying you're wrong I think you've got about 90% of the reason why horror films aren't as good these days.

Yes, i think I would like it more. Mostly because i think that the older and more experienced actors can add something to their caracters to make them more interesting, that the teen actors can`t. Then maybe you would care about them when they are running for their lifes.

I´m pretty sure "secret window" with a teen actor instead of Johnny Depp would just be a plain thriller and probably suck pretty bad.


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Old 02-05-2005, 12:36 AM
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Yes, i think I would like it more. Mostly because i think that the older and more experienced actors can add something to their caracters to make them more interesting, that the teen actors can`t. Then maybe you would care about them when they are running for their lifes.

I´m pretty sure "secret window" with a teen actor instead of Johnny Depp would just be a plain thriller and probably suck pretty bad.


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you could be right but I don't think it has much to do with age, you can act or you can't, Dakota Fanning is like 12 and she's a great actress.
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Old 02-05-2005, 12:43 AM
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A fun slice of macho mayhem in the form of "Coogan's Bluff".

Given YET ANOTHER career boost with "The Million Dollar Baby" it goes without saying now that, given his success in every decade, in many genres from acting to directing, a mammoth fan base, worldwide fame and a load of awards...he has to go down as perhaps THE most successful all rounder working in films today.
A real Cinematic icon, and to see him get rigfht back on top at the age he is now is justice indeed.
are you a critic?
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Old 02-05-2005, 01:00 AM
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are you a critic?
Er.....no not really. Only in a lonesome amatuer way with no income from it.
A bit like all of us probably!:D
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Old 02-05-2005, 01:10 AM
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Taxi - The US remake...It was slightly funny...but overall, something the teens would probably be into, not much thought required. I didn't really like it, but didn't dislike it either.
I'd still like to see the original french version, I've heard it's infinitely better.

Appleseed - Again, I'm not sure if it was a remake of the 80's animated film of the same name, or a sequel to it...I didn't see the original. Anyways, definately some of the best animation I've EVER seen, very VERY nice style...but it wasn't really my kind of movie, didn't think much of the storyline, and found the non-action scenes rather boring, but hey, I'm sure someone might like it. I was happy to have been able to have checked out some truly awesome animation styles.
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Old 02-05-2005, 01:11 AM
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Er.....no not really. Only in a lonesome amatuer way with no income from it.
A bit like all of us probably!:D
I just thought you were because of the choice of words you use to describe/review films.
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"The Death Collecter"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072855/
A b-ganster film with Joe Pesci in a very early role....On my video cover he isnt even mentioned..:)
Not recomended if you dont like B-movies...
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