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Old 10-13-2008, 03:28 PM
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Digital Underground, De La Soul, NAS, Wu Tang Clan, Bone Thugs, etc... there's plenty of good rap and hip hop out there but you don't usually see it in the mainstream. Mainstream rap sucks for the most part but to dismiss the genre completely is a bit harsh. Oops, you mentioned Nas...
Oh, and I'm a HUGE KRS-One fan, his music has great beats, lyrics, and can be very inspiring.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:29 PM
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Wonder what a Spike Lee horror movie would be like.
Like Summer of Sam, only worse. Lee is one of the most over-rated AA directors around, and his monumental ego is on display constantly. If it wasn't for overly enthusiastic white liberal film critics, his career would have ended 15 years ago.

Unfortunately, really talented directors, like the Hughes brothers haven't been able to get any work, even after their brilliant tour-de-force From Hell.


By the way, does anybody who's responded to this inanely titled thread even remember a classic subgenre known as Blaxploitation. Maybe this guy will jog someone's memory.

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Old 10-13-2008, 03:29 PM
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I have a theory about all of the "Scary Movie" movies (and even the movies that they have influenced: "Date Movie," "Epic Movie," "Meet the Spartans," etc.):

They're made by black people (the Wayans Brothers) for black people, and not only that, but they make the assumption that the audience is ridiculously stupid. Talk about negative black stereotypes (from black people shouting insipid things at a movie screen in Scary movie to black people "pimping their rides" in the form of remaking Alyson Hannigan in Date movie) perpetuated and expressed in those movies.

I take offense at those movies (their assumption that the audience is a bunch of slack-jawed morons) and I'm not even black.

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In terms of intellectual African American cinema, I think that Spike Lee is absolutely brilliant (Do The Right Thing being one of my all-time favorite films and what I see as a poignant study of racial relations). Wonder what a Spike Lee horror movie would be like.

I agree. Spike Lee's one of my favorite directors and playwrights. Not to mention August Wilson, and Tony Kushner.

Now in terms of the Wayans brothers insinuating their audience is stupid....perhaps that is not the case. But their goal is merely to create satirical pieces to an audience. Now I now many of us here are far too smart to take into account these skits, and feel like your intelligence may be insulted. But speaking in terms of the majority--in a country where the younger generations of your people can't name you all 50 states and capitals (nevermind getting them in order), barely knows what's going on in the political scene and can identify more with current then with the past in order to predict a brighter future something is wrong. The thing is that most young people in America are like this and because they are--are willing to enjoy and economically support it. Here it goes beyond race--it's more of a generation gap if you ask me.

But I don't think that was the goal in a Living Color.
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In terms of intellectual African American cinema, I think that Spike Lee is absolutely brilliant (Do The Right Thing being one of my all-time favorite films and what I see as a poignant study of racial relations). Wonder what a Spike Lee horror movie would be like.
I do like and respect Spike Lee - a lot ... but man he's a racist SOB himself.

i haven't followed him too closely since Malcolm X, but do the right thing, and she's gotta have it are great films ... not to mention Mo Better Blues - which is hands down my favorite Spike Lee Joint.


as far as what the black demographic supports where i live .. it's mostly urban comedies .. doesnt matter how bad they are...

i have 10,000 movies in my house ... and when our babysitter chose films to watch - the 1st choice was House Party 2.

2 of my best friends (a guy and a girl) are not typical and consider these films to be crap ... but for the most part ...thats what the black folks up here like.

interesting sidenote - the black population is very different in Canada from the USA... unless i'm mistaken, most blacks in the USA have been there for several generations ... while most blacks in Canada (toronto area anyway) are 1st generation west-indian.

not sure if this makes any difference in the movie viewing preferences though.


something else ... there arent that many horror fans - compared to everything else - to begin with ... so maybe as Neverending said near the beginning - maybe there's an appropriate numbers being represented here after all..
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Oh, and I'm a HUGE KRS-One fan, his music has great beats, lyrics, and can be very inspiring.
Yeah I love Hip Hop Lives by him and Marley Marl
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A Spike Lee horror film would be something close to Summer of Sam wouldn't it.

Getting back to the hip hop thing Saul Williams is really impressive and totally kills bullshit paper gangstas like M&M
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Like Summer of Sam, only worse. Lee is one of the most over-rated AA directors around, and his monumental ego is on display constantly. If it wasn't for overly enthusiastic white liberal film critics, his career would have ended 15 years ago.
You're right; He's be a pretty poor horror director.

Over-rated, I disagree with.

Monumental ego, however, I can't argue.

See, I think he's absolutely brilliant. I agree with Urge: Do the Right Thing, She's Gotta Have It, and Mo Better Blues are purely brilliant character studies. Inside Man was a great little film and even Crooklyn was fantastic in its own right. His films are cleanly, deliberately directed and incredibly important to art film as a whole.

That said, I also agree with Urge that he's a racist prick who is ridiculously full of himself... But I don't think that we can ignore his influence in film.

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Re: Blacksploitation cinema... I've never seen a one. :o
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Digital Underground, De La Soul, NAS, Wu Tang Clan, Bone Thugs, etc... there's plenty of good rap and hip hop out there but you don't usually see it in the mainstream. Mainstream rap sucks for the most part but to dismiss the genre completely is a bit harsh. Oops, you mentioned Nas...
Yeah most of the good stuff is underground and if you've noticed the ones whom i mentioned who are still considered mainstream are either on the verge of leaving the scene (eminem, Jay Z, etc) or when they did return "crossed over" to sell the image that is constantly portrayed that is delegitimizing it's legacy and foundation.
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A Spike Lee horror film would be something close to Summer of Sam wouldn't it.

Getting back to the hip hop thing Saul Williams is really impressive and totally kills bullshit paper gangstas like M&M

I like him too...I took a quiz to see what kind of rapper I was and I got Saul Williams
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I like him too...I took a quiz to see what kind of rapper I was and I got Saul Williams
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