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Old 04-23-2006, 08:16 AM
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As much as I dislike smoking, I dislike the agony of the quitting process more...
Now THAT'S more like it, nothing but the truth there.

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On a side note: I don't allow ANYONE to smoke around my kids...I keep my addiction to myself...My kids will NEVER smoke, because even they know how much I hate it and how difficult it is to stop...If nothing else, I can be an example to them this way...
That's more than my parents ever did for me...I had to rely on my common sense...however, if what you say is true I commend you for being as responsible as any parent/guardian of any children SHOULD...
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Old 04-23-2006, 08:48 AM
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Yeeeaaah, even around kids old enough to realize it smells bad and is unhealthy and are able to walk out of the room. They're still getting negative effects from the smoke. Even more so, it sets a really bad example for those kids even if they don't start until, say in their early twenties. That cig reminds them of mum, and therefore comfort and home. That's not quite (to put it very mildly), the message you want to send to your children.

I definitely agree with this one, because I grew up around smokers. Now I'm in the cycle, and can't get out. I know what Rayne means about the agony of quitting, but I want out. I'm really hoping that starting swimming is going to really boost my innitiative to stop.

I hoping the side of my brain that wants to be a top form really amatuer swimmer convinces that little but LOUD part of my brain that likes cigarettes, that swimming is a hell of a lot cooler than Camels. I absolutely love swimming, so that might just be the inspiration that I need. I swear that I'm crossing fingers, toes, and brain cells.:)
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Old 04-23-2006, 04:07 PM
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bad news guys...wasnt able to successfully quite. sat there with all my friends around me smoking, and had about 4 on friday and 1 on saturday. :(
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:50 PM
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bad news guys...wasnt able to successfully quite. sat there with all my friends around me smoking, and had about 4 on friday and 1 on saturday.
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and in some cases, removing yourself from temptation, which in itse;f is a challenge, as you may have to think about your lifestyle in general, activities, where you go, what you do...etc...
It's a bit of a bitch of a reality...but I believe if you do wanna actually quit, you might have to distance yourself from these friends, at least for a while...because if you're there, not only is the obvious temptation and availability of the product, but also, with people smoking around you, you may as well be smoking yourself. Better luck next time.
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If THAT'S your only reason...that's really sad man...was that why they were ok with you doing it? See? Selfish and irresponsible people smoke...there you have it.
Alright let me ask you why smoking makes me selfish and Irresponsible ? I am not selfish, I lend my hand to anyone who needs help, i'm that kind of guy. Irresponsible ? Please i'm 21 working 50 - 60 hour weeks to support my fiance and help my mother out. I'm going to school part time so I can get a better job i'm pretty much as responsible as you can get. So why don't you try to get to know me instead of judging me by what I say on here. This is a fourm peoples opinion's right ? So before you wan't to call me selfish and irresponsible come here sit down and get to know me alright ? May I ask are you a christian ?

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Old 04-23-2006, 08:09 PM
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Alright let me ask you why smoking makes me selfish and Irresponsible ?
I wasn't actually referring to you, rather...your family members that you mentioned, grandfather, father...etc...see, if it's just a constant cycle, it should be stopped at some point. Who knows?...maybe something I say will get through to you, and you'll be the one to break it yourself...
Yes, I think it's selfish and irresponsible for ANY parent/relative to smoke around a child, to the extent that not only will the child accept it as normal, but fall into the cycle themself. You pretty much said that's what happened, unless I misread something...I can't believe that they'd allow you to start the habit yourself, most likely before you were even fully aware of all the potential consequences, I mean...warnings will never mean much coming from someone who smokes themselves, will they? not to a young person...Not to mention the health problems that they've probably suffered (I'm pretty sure at least one of them would've had a severe bronchial infection at some point in their life at the very least), the poor athletic ability, the eventual reduced sexual function (this is true), and the financial drain.
From my perspective - and yes, someone who was around smokers for most of their young life too - I hated it, and I consider it almost child abuse. Indirectly of course...I'm not saying they acted out of malicious intent, but definately irresponsibility, and yes, selfishness...I don't think many people in this situation have much chance to come out of it a non-smoker themselves.
Smoking in general also, at least while in public...I have to stick to my guns here and say that I do feel it's selfish and irresponsible...does it make you a completely selfish and irresponsible person? No...However, I think that it IS selfish in that you're indulging in a substance that can harm those around you with little regard or respect for their choices to be healthy, and the irresponsibility comes in, as I believe that as human beings, we should look out for eachother more than this, as a basic responsibility.
It's like...non-smokers don't have to care about you spoiling your own health, in your own time and space, as you make a conscious decision to do so...it's not like fresh air will not harm you, but non-smokers cannot have that luxury...smoking in public can harm others, for this reason and this reason alone, I have my reasons against it. It's nothing personal...you could be a great guy...but, the bottom line is, if everybody gave a shit about others as much as they should, this wouldn't even be an issue.

Also, I was born a catholic or christian...or something along those lines, but religion isn't a priority for me right now, I generally follow a code of ethics, and like to think I do more good than bad...so if eventually that doesn't fit into almost any religion anyway, I'd be surprised.
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:51 PM
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I didn't bother reading everything n this thread. But for me 1st choice are marlboro reds. 2nd choice camels ( a bit cheaper)
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:29 AM
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Haha, yeah...and the first time I tried chocolate icecream, I fucking HATED it.
Maybe you should have had it with sprinkles.
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Old 04-24-2006, 02:34 AM
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For fucks sake this is only meant to be a what brand do you smoke not what do you think about gay/bi relations, why do you smoke, this is why I hate smokers or I can't quit.

Get over it I smoke that's it, don't care if people think it is arrogant or bad for me. Don't you think I already know?

I roll my own, cheaper, you look more like a druggy and they are "health fags", not as many chemicals in as normal brands especially the one that makes normal ciggies keep on burning.

Oh yeah and no-one has stated the obvious!
Smoking makes you look cool ands hard at the same time!:D
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Old 04-24-2006, 02:55 AM
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May I ask are you a christian ?
I'm not jumping down your throat, but I am curious as to why you asked this question.
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