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[Angra]

Originally Posted by neverending

I think Godzilla deserves to be on a list of villains.

But was Godzilla really a villain?

Wasn't it just and animal being an animal, following its animal insticts? Not really evil intentions.

Just like King Kong.

Hmmm?

[TheWickerFan]

Originally Posted by Angra

But was Godzilla really a villain?

Wasn't it just and animal being an animal, following its animal insticts? Not really evil intentions.

Just like King Kong.

Hmmm?

I agree; also in most of the Godzilla movies he was the hero.

[_____V_____]

Originally Posted by Angra

But was Godzilla really a villain?

Wasn't it just and animal being an animal, following its animal insticts? Not really evil intentions.

Just like King Kong.

Hmmm?

Following their instincts can be said about most known villains in movie history. Leatherface, Michael Myers, the Alien, the Jaws shark, et al...everyone followed their instincts.

I agree that deliberate villains are many in number, but instinctive villains are also plenty.

Godzilla stakes a pretty strong claim in that department. Especially in the first 2-3 films it was portrayed in.

Don't forget, Pinhead is some sort of a hero in the first Hellraiser film. That doesn't reduce his villainy in the Hellraiser series.

[TheWickerFan]

Originally Posted by _____V_____

Following their instincts can be said about most known villains in movie history. Leatherface, Michael Myers, the Alien, the Jaws shark, et al...everyone followed their instincts.

I agree that deliberate villains are many in number, but instinctive villains are also plenty.

Godzilla stakes a pretty strong claim in that department. Especially in the first 2-3 films it was portrayed in.

Don't forget, Pinhead is some sort of a hero in the first Hellraiser film. That doesn't reduce his villainy in the Hellraiser series.

I think Godzilla should be included in the list as should any animal or inanimate object that generates enough votes , but the instinctive monsters don't seem to get under the skin the way the deliberate monsters do.

And just because Pinhead disposed of a villain in the first Hellraiser movie does not in any way make him a hero.

[ferretchucker]

I'd see Godzilla to be more of an antagonist than a villain. He's the key problem in the situation and the overall negative force but I don't see him as a villain as such. It's odd, because you can't really say it's because he doesn't see what he's doing as wrong because some of the best villains do what they do with what they see as the best intentions. Even so, I just think there's SOMETHING missing. Can't put my finger on it.

[scouse mac]

Sent mine in


1: Dracula (Christopher Lee)
2: Alien
3: The Thing
4: Baron Frankenstein (Peter Cushing)
5: Predator

Ash (alien)
Dr Phibes
Frankensteins Monster
Candyman
Norman Bates
Freddy Kreuger
Mrs Carmody (the mist)
Tall Man
Wolf Man
Pazuzu/Regan MacNeil
Prince Prospero (masque of the red death)
Damien Thorn
Frank Zito (maniac)
Michael Myers
Lord Summerisle (wickerman)

[_____V_____]

Received. Thanks, Scouse.


These are the most popular horror villains so far (appearing in 5 or more lists) :-

• The Alien
  Asami
  Count Dracula
  Freddy Krueger
  Dr Hannibal Lecter
  Jack Torrance
  Leatherface
  Michael Myers
  Norman Bates
  Pennywise
  Pinhead
  The Thing

In addition, there are plenty who stand on the borderline of popularity - which means they figure in 3-4 lists.

But being popular doesn't necessarily mean they are leading in the Points table. That's an entirely different cup of tea. ;)

[Ferox13]

Originally Posted by scouse mac

Prince Prospero (masque of the red death)

Good Call - I didn't want to fill my list with Vincient Price characters as he did so many great ones so I narrowed it down to Edward Lionheart..

[roshiq]

Originally Posted by Ferox13

Good Call - I didn't want to fill my list with Vincient Price characters as he did so many great ones so I narrowed it down to Edward Lionheart..

I think I have listed all the major vintage villain roles of Mr. Price in my top 20. Besides Prospero & Lionheart, Mathew Hopkins is another brilliant role that I like to see in the final list here.

Btw, V...I've forget to add the following 'character' in my list of special recommendations:

Tingler [The Tingler (1959)]:)

[urdevil]

Great idea first of all. If anyone has any comments questions etc. let me know
Here goes:

(no particular order)

Captain Howdy(The Exorcist)
Count Orlach(Nosferatu)
Hans Beckett(M)
Harry Lime(The Third Man)
Hannibal Lector(The Silence of the Lambs)
Norman Bates(Psycho)
Billy(Black Christmas)original
Baby Jane Hudson(Whatever happened to Baby Jane?)
Annie Wilkes(Misery)
John Doe(Seven)
Mike Meyers(Halloween)original
Harry Roat(Wait Until Dark)
Annabelle Loren(The House on Haunted Hill)original
Alex(A Clockwork Orange)
Alex Forrest(Fatal Attraction)
The Women-Beatrice Dalle(Inside)yikes
Mary Tilford(The Childrens Hour)
Tony Wendice(Dial M for Murdrer)
Mark Lewis(Peeping Tom)
Leatherface(Texas Chainsaw Massacre)