What are your views on God?

[pinkerton]

Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X

I would think eternal damnation for saving mankind would be the greater sacrifice, yes. Jesus is the son of god, Judas is forever burning in the worst part of hell. Come on who's really suffering for our sins?

I've seen a program (don't remember the title, probably the history channel) that Jesus asked that Judas betray him.By not doing so he would be defying the lord and that he was heartbroken to be handed the task.Hence he bought his way into heaven.I don't know the validity of this and i'm not trying to argue, its just something i've seen.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by urgeok

the dinosaurs became extinct because they couldnt adapt to the changing environment ... you dont think a lesson is in there somewhere ?

when did we find out what caused their extinction? Maybe god was like "What the fuck are these things doing here?!" Then he stomped them all like bugs. :)

[The STE]

Ok, I should point out now that I don't think Pat wrote the bible, so really this is all purely for sake of argument.

Animals are mentioned in the bible a lot, sure, but AFAIK there are no passages that are all animal, that humans didn't interract with. It's tough to connect with something like a dinosaur, unless you can turn it into a cartoon and dumb it down with endless personifications, and since the overall message in the bible is the more important thing, why risk alienating people in the name of historical accuracy?

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by urgeok

yeah ! global warming leading to an ice age ..
in this case the global warming was caused by a huge asteroid impact that threw a ton of crap into the atmosphere.

anyway - its the theory i believe in.

You stick to your pathetic fables of global warming and asteroids. The big stomp theory is the only logical way it could have happened. :p

[The STE]

Originally Posted by urgeok

historical accuracy ?

like noahs ark ?

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with that one

[The STE]

Yeah, but I didn't say that there was historical accuracy in the bible. I said (well, inferred) that historical accuracy (ie: the dinosaurs) was downplayed in favor of making the bible more palatable and relatable by the masses, and that the overall message was more important than making it historically accurate.

[Zero]

as saint augustine reasoned - humans are imperfect, human language is imperfect . . . but GOD is perfect. . . therefore there will always be some slippage in biblical texts. for augustine this meant that priests must continually study the language of the bible to seek the truer meanings and shuffle through the human imperfections

[Zero]

arguably something perfect could only create something imperfect because to create something else perfect would be to create itself

[Zero]

but we're talking here about absolute perfection - which suggests, as well, absolute completeness - therefore, there could not be two perfect spheres (in the sense of Perfect spheres). if God is the absolute essence of pure Perfection - then there can be nothing else that is perfect that is not God.

[The STE]

See, now we're getting into the "Can God make a rock so big that even he can't lift it" territory, and that's one of the dumbest questions I've ever heard. Ok, Pat is perfect. We're imperfect? Why would something perfect make something imperfect? Why would something perfect make something that is also perfect? Why make anything at all?