HDC Presents: 100 Years of Horror

[Straker]

Someone needs to get behind Cronos, its such a quality horror flick and great take on the vampire genre. Del Toro is a quality writer and director and this is not only his first feature length movie, but easily amongst his best work. The story is beautiful and the characters are believable. Its one of the most creative and original vampire movies made..... For anyone who hasn't watched it, you really have to see it, great piece of cinema.

At this point I'd be happy to back Sleepy Hollow or Ringu, but I don't want to back anything that is going to make the final cut until Cronos has had every chance to make the final 20.

[The Villain]

Originally Posted by metternich1815

I guess I need to watch this film again. I have always considered it to be good, but not excellent. I am curious what are your reasons why you believe it is a great film? I am not challenging your views by the question; I am actually curious.

The direction, acting, score, writing and sets are all superbly done. It has a great story and a genuine spooky atmosphere. It is also IMO the best version of The Headless Horseman story i have seen made into film. Also as Neverending said it is one of Burton's best movies.

Originally Posted by Straker

Someone needs to get behind Cronos, its such a quality horror flick and great take on the vampire genre. Del Toro is a quality writer and director and this is not only his first feature length movie, but easily amongst his best work. The story is beautiful and the characters are believable. Its one of the most creative and original vampire movies made..... For anyone who hasn't watched it, you really have to see it, great piece of cinema.

At this point I'd be happy to back Sleepy Hollow or Ringu, but I don't want to back anything that is going to make the final cut until Cronos has had every chance to make the final 20.

I have never seen Cronos but have meant to as i am a fan of Del Toro. I just havent gotten around to it. However i will back it based solely on your recommendation

[neverending]

Chronos is a great film. Del Toro burst upon the scene with a work of brilliance. I think Chronos, Sleepy Hollow and Nightbreed all deserve to be on the list over several that have already made it.

[Giganticface]

Oh my gosh, yes please, Cronos! A unique film in so many respects.

At this point, my "degree" of pleading for backings is this:

#1 Ringu, for its importance in horror history, and the onslaught of J-horror, and American remakes that it inspired. Also a darn good movie, even though we're all bored of it now.

#2 Cronos, for its sheer uniqueness, quality -- dare I say, flawlessness -- and everything Straker said. An amazing debut (I didn't know it was his first) by one of today's premier horror directors.

#3 Audition, for bringing back the shock value previously only found in exploitation films, yet making it an essential part of great storytelling, thus not exploitative at all. Whether you like this kind of thing or not, Miike left an impact on horror with this one, and is highly influential. Also, it should already be in there because of the number of original votes it received.

I really can't believe that all three movies are not in the final 20. Since only one can make it, I won't make a plea for Natural Born Killers, even though I think it's a perfect representation of how the 90s was not a horror decade -- the genre's theatrics and "simplicity" -- were completely out of fashion, just like new wave and hair metal were replaced by alternative rock. Horror was either satired (Scream) or embedded in other genres, like crime mysteries (Se7en, Silence of the Lambs), drama (Sixth Sense) and comedy (Army of Darkness, the Frighteners). Natural Born Killers is a lot of things, most notably a social commentary, while also being an effective horror movie, especially the scene with the Indian hallucination ritual.

If none of the above get a vote, I would back Sleepy Hollow, especially since Burton is not yet represented in the history. (Beetlejuice was his best shot.) I completely forgot about this movie when doing my rankings, but I remember liking it a lot when I saw it. The fact that i forgot about it, and have never rewatched it, is perhaps a notch against it though.

[The Villain]

Can we take away backing? If so i'll take away my backing of Leprechaun if it'll remove it from the final list so we can put in some better films. I've done some thinking and despite liking it and thinking of it fondly due to watching it in my childhood, it's not a movie that deserves to be in the final list especially over other movies that people are rallying for.

[_____V_____]

Originally Posted by The Villain

Can we take away backing? If so i'll take away my backing of Leprechaun if it'll remove it from the final list so we can put in some better films. I've done some thinking and despite liking it and thinking of it fondly due to watching it in my childhood, it's not a movie that deserves to be in the final list especially over other movies that people are rallying for.

The 20th (and final) film finalised is Cronos, after your second backing.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=468

If we go by Giganticface's final post/backing, the 21st film (next in order) would be Sleepy Hollow. Do you really wish to withdraw your backing of Leprechaun? That would make Sleepy Hollow squeeze into the top 20 by sealing the final spot.

[The Villain]

Originally Posted by _____V_____

The 20th (and final) film finalised is Cronos, after your second backing.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showpost...&postcount=468

If we go by Giganticface's final post/backing, the 21st film (next in order) would be Sleepy Hollow. Do you really wish to withdraw your backing of Leprechaun? That would make Sleepy Hollow squeeze into the top 20 by sealing the final spot.

Yes i would, Sleepy Hollow deserves it over Leprechaun

[_____V_____]

Originally Posted by The Villain

Yes i would, Sleepy Hollow deserves it over Leprechaun

Okay.

We now have our chosen 20 from the 90s.

I will wait till this weekend for more entries for the 2000s, and hopefully we should start compilation work by then. So (for now), expect the 2000s compiled Master List by Saturday.

[Giganticface]

I wish StarChild were here to see what he might vote for. It seems like we only have 6 or so people contributing at the moment. Could we give it a half day or so to see if anyone else votes? (Of course that opens the door for another random vote. Cutting it off now would ensure a quality choice - Sleepy Hollow - makes the list.)

I appreciate and respect Villain's gesture. I think it says a lot about a person's maturity to re-evaluate their own input.

[Edit] I wrote this while Villain responded and V made the decision, so please ignore in terms of setting the 20.

[The Villain]

Originally Posted by Giganticface

I wish StarChild were here to see what he might vote for. It seems like we only have 6 or so people contributing at the moment. Could we give it a half day or so to see if anyone else votes? (Of course that opens the door for another random vote. Cutting it off now would ensure a quality choice - Sleepy Hollow - makes the list.)

I appreciate and respect Villain's gesture. I think it says a lot about a person's maturity to re-evaluate their own input.

[Edit] I wrote this while Villain responded and V made the decision, so please ignore in terms of setting the 20.

Thank you. For the 2000's i'm gonna be more careful for what i back.