The Gay Thread

[wufongtan.]

Originally Posted by fuglystick

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/conten...;253/5023/1034

You want the full article, get it yourself.

Your turn. (Here's a hint: The closest you're going to come is proving homophobes are sociopaths. So, uh, congratulations on that?)

At best. biological research into sexual preference is muddled and inconclusive. And if it is to be relied upon. All it means is that homosexuality is caused by a chemical in balance in the brain. Much like depression. So if you're correct. Then people should stop calling them gays and start calling them sads. While it's a long bow to call. Homophobes sociopaths. Their "problem" (don't believe they have one.) Is more a hard wiring of the brain. Which really means. That Homophobes are indeed more natural than homosexuals.

[novadawn969]

Originally Posted by urdevil

How original. I didnt realize that trolls existed in Canada. You just try too hard to be "cool". Stop being a douche

:eek:
Oh my... I can't believe I just saw the word troll on HDC.
I thought we were better than that... ::tisk tisk::

I couldn't read on and not reply to that... :rolleyes:

You will realize, urdevel, that we are all trolls. I haven't been here in... forever and a day, and I still believe that.
We just kick ass like that. :D

[ferretchucker]

You know what, does it even fucking matter? I know that this isn't something I chose, because if it was then I would have made a lot of different choices when I was younger. It isn't something I could get away from and I really wanted to. And perhaps homophobes are natural too, but I don't see why they have to act on it. They don't gain any pleasure from it! It's just a "condition" based around anger and hate, and most of all a lack of tolerance. Homosexuality is a condition based around love and attraction. I think I know which is more natural of the two of them.

[fuglystick]

Whether homosexuality is a function of biology or personal choice shouldn't even be an issue; either way, it doesn't excuse a homophobic response. But I've always been amazed that homophobes believe that homosexuals would just voluntarily choose to join a persecuted and marginalized demographic. To what purpose? Just to piss off the homophobes?

[fuglystick]

Originally Posted by wufongtan.

At best. biological research into sexual preference is muddled and inconclusive. And if it is to be relied upon. All it means is that homosexuality is caused by a chemical in balance in the brain. Much like depression. So if you're correct. Then people should stop calling them gays and start calling them sads. While it's a long bow to call. Homophobes sociopaths. Their "problem" (don't believe they have one.) Is more a hard wiring of the brain. Which really means. That Homophobes are indeed more natural than homosexuals.

So first, you want to disregard the science, and second, you want to classify homosexuality as a disease. You insist that homophobia is a matter of "hard wiring" (without providing any evidence, as requested), but the evidence that homosexuality is biological you disregard out of hand. Tell me, do you have calluses on your knuckles from pacing around your cage on them?

Come back with some proof to back up your position, or don't bother coming back at all. I'm not going to waste time on someone who lets his ass speak for him.

[illdojo]

Well....I'm off to my Laboratory with 2 smokin' hot lesbo's to figure this whole "gay" thing out. I'll get back to you guy's. This could take some time and effort.

[wufongtan.]

Originally Posted by fuglystick

But I've always been amazed that homophobes believe that homosexuals would just voluntarily choose to join a persecuted and marginalized demographic. To what purpose? Just to piss off the homophobes?

Yeah ok. Homosexuality. is the in thing. They are the most protected and praised members of the community. Look at how many African Americans died, because of race hate. Many thousands. One gay gets murdered. (it wasn't even because he was gay.) And they bring in tough hate crime laws.

[wufongtan.]

Originally Posted by fuglystick

So first, you want to disregard the science, and second, you want to classify homosexuality as a disease. You insist that homophobia is a matter of "hard wiring" (without providing any evidence, as requested), but the evidence that homosexuality is biological you disregard out of hand. Tell me, do you have calluses on your knuckles from pacing around your cage on them?

Come back with some proof to back up your position, or don't bother coming back at all. I'm not going to waste time on someone who lets his ass speak for him.

I never " just" disregarded your Scientific" evidence. I just said what the main stream science community says. To find out why people are hard wired to be homophobes. Go research why people have green eyes or blond hair. It's the same principal.
One more thing. I find amusing about your post.
You use the NIMH epidemiological research as proof as homosexuality, being a natural occurrence. Then say. What i have described homophobes as sociopaths. Yet both homosexuals and sociopaths. Have high levels of NIMH .
Yet one section of society having these high levels is seen as proof that their condition is natural. And the other group. Well people speak of cures and treatments.

[fuglystick]

Originally Posted by wufongtan.

I never " just" disregarded your Scientific" evidence. I just said what the main stream science community says. To find out why people are hard wired to be homophobes. Go research why people have green eyes or blond hair. It's the same principal.
One more thing. I find amusing about your post.
You use the NIMH epidemiological research as proof as homosexuality, being a natural occurrence. Then say. What i have described homophobes as sociopaths. Yet both homosexuals and sociopaths. Have high levels of NIMH .
Yet one section of society having these high levels is seen as proof that their condition is natural. And the other group. Well people speak of cures and treatments.

You are not citing any evidence to support your position, and until you do, it's nothing but opinion. I'm done with you.

[ferretchucker]

Originally Posted by wufongtan.

I never " just" disregarded your Scientific" evidence. I just said what the main stream science community says. To find out why people are hard wired to be homophobes. Go research why people have green eyes or blond hair. It's the same principal.
One more thing. I find amusing about your post.
You use the NIMH epidemiological research as proof as homosexuality, being a natural occurrence. Then say. What i have described homophobes as sociopaths. Yet both homosexuals and sociopaths. Have high levels of NIMH .
Yet one section of society having these high levels is seen as proof that their condition is natural. And the other group. Well people speak of cures and treatments.

What I find amusing is that you're saying about how Homophobes are misunderstood and shouldn't be judged etc. because they can't change it. Can you spell irony?

And really, what kind of an argument is "more people should be persecuted and killed before society bans the prejudice of a group of people"? No doubt you'll argue my rewriting of your words but that is the jist of what you said.

And you must be truly ignorant to believe that someone would choose to be homosexual just to be popular. Do you know why? Because you can't choose to be homosexual. You can choose to perform the acts, you could have sex with a thousand of the same sex and still not be gay because it is in the MIND. It isn't the act which makes somebody homosexual, it's the inner thoughts. Why anybody would have sex with 1000 of the same sex and not enjoy it is beyond me, but I'm just using it for my point. Just like somebody could practice a christianity, but unless they truly believe in it, they're not real christians.