This is close enough to legalized murder for me.

[Gren the cake]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
The police are there to solve the crime after the fact, very rarely do they prevent crime.

Yuo can blame that on the Bill of Rights

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Originally posted by urgeok
the solution is that the criminal laws have to change. Up here as well as in the USA people are getting away with shit every second because law enforcement is a joke.

The time never fits the crime .. it varies from town to town, there is no consistency.

I'd love to see a system where criminals paid the FULL penalty of the law .. not get a single second off for good behavior (what the fuck is that anyway ? good behavior ??)
No one gets a bullshit break just because they have a better lawyer.

becuz federal law allows each state, city, jurisdiction, to make thier own judgements, to suit the needs of their community

and why do criminals get off for good behavior? WHY do most not even serve HALF of their jail time? easy - we dont have the resources to house them all (money)

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Gren the cake
becuz federal law allows each state, city, jurisdiction, to make thier own judgements, to suit the needs of their community

and why do criminals get off for good behavior? WHY do most not even serve HALF of their jail time? easy - we dont have the resources to house them all (money)

read back .. i solved the money problem :)

[Gren the cake]

Originally posted by Haunted
You know, I think this gives people a lot of leeway to commit violent crimes against people and then hide under this new mandate. So, I think you're on to something MD.

Also, I live on a golf course, under this Florida law, I could potentially shoot a golfer coming in the yard to fetch his ball. That's an extreme example, but I'm saying that gives people with guns too much power.

exactly, which is why we give police the authority

why do we have doctors? plumbers? architects? becuz we ourselves CANNOT become expert in all subjects, so we let other people handle it for us. we trust them.

just as theres gonna be shitty cops, there are gonna be shitty doctors, teachers, MECHANICS, etc etc...

why is it that people always have problems with cops? you realize the 2nd most dangerous job in the US is the job of a corrections officer (jail). and what is the first? police officer.

that is why we let the cops do it - becuz they are fully aware of the bill of rights and all that jazz. becuz they are physically trained on how to remove weapons, trained to run TO the fire, instead of away from it.

to kill in self defense is one thing, but there are motherfuckers who will kill someone else for (as in the example earlier) burglary. sorry, but stealing != (Does not equal) murder. as with cops, and with anyone else.. its called REASONABLE force

which is why i said again - if they think the court systems are plugged up now, just wait! people are gona totaly take that law the wrong way, and ignorance of the law is no defense.

[Gren the cake]

Originally posted by urgeok
read back .. i solved the money problem :)

im going in order, and now i ilost my place. LOL

all i saw was that u want to legalize and gov't regulate prostitution..... :eek:

not that that woudnt cause its own myriad of problems....

i fuckin hate complainers. why? becuz with every solution will be a whole new set of problems. ya end up being angry ur whole fuckin life, when fact of the matter is we are in the US (cept u, schmuck!), and happen to be some ungrateful motherfuckers.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Gren the cake
im going in order, and now i ilost my place. LOL

all i saw was that u want to legalize and gov't regulate prostitution..... :eek:

not that that woudnt cause its own myriad of problems....

i fuckin hate complainers. why? becuz with every solution will be a whole new set of problems. ya end up being angry ur whole fuckin life, when fact of the matter is we are in the US (cept u, schmuck!), and happen to be some ungrateful motherfuckers.

no back further than that ... re. making inmates work for every penny that they cost to be there ...

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Originally posted by urgeok
no back further than that ... re. making inmates work for every penny that they cost to be there ...

OHHHH that

ehh aint that easy. how to regulate that? and what sort of work? we used to make them do work stamping licenses and such but fact of the matter is a lot of the times u dont want these fucks anywhere near any tools, hammers, and such

i guess u can get em to work stuffing pillows... but im SURE they could find something fucked up to do with that (asphyxiate.. perhaps melt the fibers into a blade of some sort.... creative bitches)

UNLESS your talking about, lets say AFTER they get out of jail, to repay... it costs $7000 per cell initially and $1000/yr upkeep. but again, how to regulate? example - sex offenders have to register every year for the rest of their life (with good reason, I believe. although it IS somewhat sad to see a feeble old man who can barely sign his own name walkin in to fill out that shit). ANYWAY, if you DONT register, that is an offense. but how many people get away with it? that in itself takes money to mail notices, find them, etc etc.....

again, money. which is TOTALLY why i think it was RIDIULOUS that they locked up martha stewart. we spent tax dollars to lock her up. i dunno about u, but im sure we coulda fined her hefty and put that money to good use. on top of that, what is one of the reasons we lock people up? to PHYSICALLY keep them from repeating their actions. so why lock her up, when shes not a danger to anyone?

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Gren the cake
OHHHH that

ehh aint that easy. how to regulate that? and what sort of work? we used to make them do work stamping licenses and such but fact of the matter is a lot of the times u dont want these fucks anywhere near any tools, hammers, and such

stuff like that ...
i think that there are a lot of things that they can be doing ..
with the same supervision they get now ..

and if a serial rapist kills a child molester with a hammer ?? too bad, so sad.

[Gren the cake]

Originally posted by urgeok
stuff like that ...
i think that there are a lot of things that they can be doing ..
with the same supervision they get now ..

and if a serial rapist kills a child molester with a hammer ?? too bad, so sad.

yeh but they house the rapists in wit.... martha stewart!!! that and whos to say they would only kill each other? how about the corretions officer, or the maintenace guy, who just wants to get off shift and go back home to their family? its just not worth it

^_^ and no, there arent a lot of things they'll do. u cant give a lot of these fucks an inch

example. give them a paper cup. what theyl'l do is they'll piss and shit in it and leave it in their cell, colecting for a week. they dont even give a fuck about the smell. then when the corrections officer comes by, they hurl it at them

or to make it worse, they take the plastic off of various objects (usu. the wrapper of cigarettes), use the heater to melt it. collecting enough, they make a blade, then they dip the blade in the piss/shit mix and THEN stab the officers with them

so what then, pray tell?

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Gren the cake
yeh but they house the rapists in wit.... martha stewart!!! that and whos to say they would only kill each other? how about the corretions officer, or the maintenace guy, who just wants to get off shift and go back home to their family? its just not worth it

^_^ and no, there arent a lot of things they'll do. u cant give a lot of these fucks an inch

example. give them a paper cup. what theyl'l do is they'll piss and shit in it and leave it in their cell, colecting for a week. they dont even give a fuck about the smell. then when the corrections officer comes by, they hurl it at them

or to make it worse, they take the plastic off of various objects (usu. the wrapper of cigarettes), use the heater to melt it. collecting enough, they make a blade, then they dip the blade in the piss/shit mix and THEN stab the officers with them

so what then, pray tell?

then they sit outside and starve in the courtyard
i dont have a lot of sympathy for people who fuck up - even in prison ...