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[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by Haphazard
Well said cheeb.

I'd also like to say that this -- and any other online forum -- is just a microcosm of society. You can't sheild your children from reality. You can inform them of right and wrong, etc. But ultimately it is out of the parents' hands.

Hopefully, you can start posting on a regular basis again Vamp.

Lmao sheild your children from reality? This is reality? If there is anything i can do to keep my children from harm, i'm going to do it. They can hate me, but it's for their own good. And it's more about from exmaple then informing them.

Until they are 18, it will always be in my hands.

[Dr.L00MIS]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Lmao sheild your children from reality? This is reality? If there is anything i can do to keep my children from harm, i'm going to do it. They can hate me, but it's for their own good. And it's more about from exmaple then informing them.

Until they are 18, it will always be in my hands.

I agree 100%

[Gren the cake]

there was life before the internet and there is life with it. what is reality? what is natural? even virtual reality and little online bf/gfs are still 'reality'

and just like someone from the internet can kill u, same with the person who delivers ur newspaper, the person at church, in the grocer etc etc... and consider that majority of murders/assaults are between people who knows each other, either friends or acquaintances... (as opposed to strangers)

[urgeok]

the one thing the internet provides is anonimity.
true a 'bad person' could get at you in the real world. but not without you seeing them.

I will say that the 'net' has been given a bad rap because of the few times some scumbag has used a chat line, etc to lure some young person with false promises but that is a very small percentage. You've got more to fear from a 'trusted' friend or family member.

But as the threat does exist no matter how small, kids should be educated .. but not in an all or nothing approach .. but with education and common sense.

There will always be vulnerable kids .. because of whats going on in that particular home, but those kids are in danger no matter what.

Blaming the internet on the downfall of society is another pathetic attempt to excuse poor parenting skills.

and as far as video games go .. i dont think there are a lot of kids giving up on playing outside to play video games ..
in the past those kids didnt want to go outside anyway .. they'd read or watch TV - if allowed to.

again ... parenting skills ...
My kid has a gameboy and our house rule is that he only plays it in the car on trips.

Parenting is tough .. there are things you can potentially screw up at every turn .. but that doesnt mean you fucking give up.

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by urgeok
[B]the one thing the internet provides is anonimity.
true a 'bad person' could get at you in the real world. but not without you seeing them.

A true bad person will see that you not seeing them, is a plus. So when you do meet, who is gonna know any the wiser.

I will say that the 'net' has been given a bad rap because of the few times some scumbag has used a chat line, etc to lure some young person with false promises but that is a very small percentage. You've got more to fear from a 'trusted' friend or family member.

Well i have to say, it's more then a few. There is a site www.pervertedjustice.com you can see there are quiet a few that are wanting to meet children. Not to mention all the others who meet women, not children and cause harm.

Although a family friend or family memeber may be the bad guy, but the odd's of catching someone whom you met off the internet is alot smaller then catching and prosecuting uncle John for example.

Blaming the internet on the downfall of society is another pathetic attempt to excuse poor parenting skills.

The internet is a downfall. It shows "us" as a people, can't be as we are on here as we are in real life. If we lived in a society with no repercussions, the internet is what it would be like.

A true definition of who we are, is what we do when no one is watching.

Or whatever lol

[Gren the cake]

"Blaming the internet on the downfall of society is another pathetic attempt to excuse poor parenting skills."

Nice.

"Although a family friend or family memeber may be the bad guy, but the odd's of catching someone whom you met off the internet is alot smaller then catching and prosecuting uncle John for example."

what is this based off of? Its all situational. If someone is being molested by uncle john, wouldnt they PERHAPS be more inclined to keep they mouth shut since its a relative, as opposed to a stranger? That said relative could use their power/influence to keep them to shut up?

that and it depends on hwether or not u actually meet etc, and the crime. lets say in a rape, both situations would be left with physical evidence but in the internet case odds are there would be some sort of log, whether on the TIF, email, website etc..

what does the internet do? provide information and connect people from all over the world. of course with the good info and the good people theyres gonna be the BS as well as the pedophiles/assholes etc.

i wouldnt shut my kids from it but if its all they do then yah, id regulate it. as for talking with people, let em talk. just becuz we can physically see someone, it makes them safer?

[massacre man]

the kids shouldn't give strangers their adress i'm 13 and i talk to yous guys all the times ands i is stills alives no one has asked fors mys adress ands i wonts nots gives mys adress ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssss

[FairyKorpes]

Originally posted by massacre man
the kids shouldn't give strangers their adress i'm 13 and i talk to yous guys all the times ands i is stills alives no one has asked fors mys adress ands i wonts nots gives mys adress ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssss

Lol have you recently developed a stutter?

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by FairyKorpes
Lmao sheild your children from reality? This is reality? If there is anything i can do to keep my children from harm, i'm going to do it. They can hate me, but it's for their own good. And it's more about from exmaple then informing them.

Until they are 18, it will always be in my hands.

You're apparently a control freak.

You can bring your children up any way you deem safe and fit, etc. But that doesn't mean they aren't going to be exposed to questionable content, and turn out the way you want them to.

All you can do is be a good parent and provide them with honest answers and teach them to make solid choices in life.

You can't control every aspect of their lives.

[urgeok]

the internet isnt any more of a downfall than rap, TV, paintball, extremist fanatics, etc ..

WE are the downfall .. people.

A certain percent of our population are bent towards excess. They cannot control their greed.

We are greedy as we exit the womb .. we need to eat to survive.
That same survival instinct stays with us but as not alll people are equal, not all people will be able to temper that greed instinct with common sense, or the desire to work together in a society.

Be it their wiring is wrong, or they are weak and subject to stronger negative influences, or their parents let them get away with everything because it was easier for them that way ...
these people will always find a way to hurt and bother the other people around them.

I dont want to hear that the reason is because we are becoming godless because i can cite a lot of references (not with the complete and historical accuracy that Kemal can) where devout christians have caused more harm in the world than good.


The problem is people. We are a parasite on this planet and the good ones cannot repair the damage done by the bad ones. They work faster and with a greater effect.

There is no easy answer .. we are all driven to extiction by our own basic insatiable greed. Our 'survival mechanism backfiring like a bastard.

I know this sounds like melodramatic crap but its as fucking clear as crystal. Ask any environmentalist.