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I've been diagnosed with different things over time from depression to bipolar disorder to dissociative disorder.
I'm taking Cymbalta for the depression and Seroquel for the rage (uncontrollable anger - also helps me sleep at night). I used to suffer from anxiety and panic attacks (most likely a byproduct of PTSD), but I've been doing significantly better lately. Diagnosing mental/emotional disorders are definitely a tricky business; what's really difficult is that this is not an exact science. Your biology and hormones are always changing and it's difficult to tell which medication will work for you. It took me a long time to get to the medications that I am on now and, believe me, there is a significant change in me for the better. I honestly think that medication is a good thing, but not for everyone. If someone wants to commit to taking meds and be patient enough to work with their doctor, then power to them. If someone had a bad experience with meds (and there are a LOT of them out there that can fuck you up), then stay the hell away. My only problem with meds is that I feel as though people are over-medicated and that doctors are more willing to medicate as opposed to find root cause. Then again, a lot of people aren't willing to honestly find rout cause in themselves; it's not easy. Hell, I know I should be seeing a therapist... But I... just... don't. but anyway My biggest problem with mental/emotional disorders are that there is a social sigma attached to them and, quite frankly, a lot of people simply do not believe that they exist (you're not "depressed"... you're "just sad" and you should "be happy"). I found it really alienating growing up with depression, though I can honestly say that it's great to be with someone who is empathetic and supportive. My current boyfriend helps me keep myself together and I help him. That is the MOST important thing about an emotional disorder; having people around you who care about you and support you. Also - It's good to have a thread to talk about it openly. I'm doing a lot better now than I have in a long, long time. Edit: Incidentally, I am now watching the episode of South Park where all the kids are prescribed Ritalin. ha Last edited by ChronoGrl; 05-09-2008 at 08:06 PM.
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uhmmm...
i got nothing ... funny - i started a thread like this waaaay back in the day when i was starting to wonder if i was the only person on the forum who wasnt medicated or a candidate for medication. it wasnt to be a mean superior prick - it just seemed crazy disproportional - i know these kinds of mental illnesses are pretty common ... but why all in one place - a horror forum ? does that strike anyone else as kind of odd ? then i saw another forum and it was similar. one thing made sense to me - if the kind of illness resulted in a difficulty in dealing with people or makes the person a shut-in) - i think a forum provides an outlet - a way to reach out to people without having to really be with them. like DG said above - everyone has something ... taking a closer look at myself i know i can be a compulsive eater if i dont take measures to prevent it. (keep junk food out of the house..etc) i'm a completist - if i collect something i find i have a driving need to get all of that thing - but thats tempered by being aware of the realities of having a morgage to pay and the other financial responsibilities of life. i hate arguing - (i love discussing) but pointless angry arguing makes me fall asleep. by brain shuts right down. i remember how mad my ex-wife would get - she'd be bitching about some stipid shit and i'd fall asleep in the middle of her sentance. obviously an subconcious self perservation technique. i'm still alarmed by the number of more serious afflictions though - and wonder if there's a relationship between that - and loving horror movies.
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Maybe it's because I can attribute pretty much everyone's 'personality disorders' to aspects outlined in Astrology (Of course, you have to factor in environmental influences and upbringing, too)...Most people don't buy into Astrology either, but at least I'm not trying to make a profit off of someone's problems. Libras and Geminis are bi-polar/manic depressive Cancers are codependent (to one person, while trying to shut out everyone else), insecure and usually depressed...When they're 'up' they're hyper and way up, when they're down, it's almost impossible to reach down far enough to pull them out. Leos are overly aggressive and thrive on attention Libras, Cancers and Leos tend to be hypocondriacs, largely due to paranoia...They read the symptoms of a disease and end up convincing themselves that they have it, to the point of physically manifesting the symptoms Aries are generally aggressive and end up with quite a few 'issues', most of their own making (purposely or otherwise) Tauruses have codependency issues and and insecurity (they need something or someone outside of themselves to make them feel secure) Virgos are obsessive/compulsive and worry themslves too much Pisces have incredibly addictive personalities...They can create an addiction out of just about anything, but they have to have SOMETHING Libras, Geminis, Aries and Pisces are statistically the most 'medicated' signs I can give you the psychological profile for every sign...And as ridiculous as you may think it is, I'm just as accurate as your 'psychiatrists'...I can also find anomalies within your Astrological charts for the uncommon ailments that may not be typically associated with your sun sign (emotions are usually controlled by your moon sign anyway...Especially Cancers...Changing moon phases can make them manic (full moon), depressed or somber (waning or 'weak' moon), irritable, etcetera). Between psychiatrists with all their mind-altering chemicals and Astrology with all of its nonsense...Astrology is much safer. Are people aware that EVERY kid so far who has been associated with school shootings has been taking these prescribed drugs?..I don't think the pills were helping, do you?...In fact, those types of incidents NEVER happened before these things became widely used...Maybe it's a bad idea to screw with a kid's brain that way. Basically...I just don't think people need all these damned pills...Most of these drugs cause more problems than they supposedly solve...How did society ever make it before 'doctors' started throwing this shit at everyone?...It also upsets me that people are medicating their children instead of disciplining them...But, aren't the adults also medicating themselves rather than taking control of their lives and working out their problems? So, you have a problem...Do you want to add dependancy on chemicals to that problem, along with feeling like you're too weak to handle things on your own?...What exactly does THAT do for your insecurity, self-esteem and dependency issues?...Wouldn't that kinda make you depressed? I just happen to think that people are much stronger than they realize, and that 'psychiatrists' feed off of their weaknesses rather than help them realize their own strengths...Because, they can't make money if they tell people they're 'okay'. And consider this...What IS a real 'mental disorder'?...in the 1700s, I would have been burned as a witch for liking sex as much as I do, only females who consort with satan would like sex, right?...In the 1800s, I would have been lobotomized for nymphomania, because only males are supposed to enjoy sex, true?...But now, well, I'm just sexually aggressive... We ALL get depressed sometimes...We all get stressed sometimes to the point that we feel like we're gonna lose our minds...We all have to face problems and tragedies at some point...We all have our good days/moments and bad ones...We all get lonely sometimes and need someone to talk to...We all get sad sometimes...We all get angry occasionally...We are HUMAN, so we naturally have emotions...The key is to learn to CONTROL those emotions, which usually comes with maturity, experience and information...NOT drugs...You can't learn to control the emotions if you depend on drugs to do it for you. And those who seem like they don't have emotions, well they've got pills for THAT, too...Even though that type of thing is generally the result of severe psychological abuse, torment or trauma to the point that someone has simply shut themselves off (it happens normally, it's a mental defense mechanism to preserve our sanity...Have some faith in human biology, we are amazing creatures)...Basically, we're all pretty 'normal'...I just truly think that some people have a self-serving agenda to try to make us believe otherwise. Like Urge said, I don't mean to offend anyone (which is why I was reluctant to even respond to this thread), and every adult has the right to make their own decisions...I'm just throwing my own personal opinion out there...And I apologize if I HAVE offended anyone, it's just that this topic seriously upsets me.
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well, i do believe that there are disorders that definately warrant medication.
i think less severe ones can be helped without drugs .. there are other tools, strategies, and support that could be employed. but there are some people who just cant cope without medication .. their brains are lacking the chemical balance that should be able to tell them that suicide isnt the answer - or deep depression. I've known people like this - medication is absolutely neccessary (but it isnt an exact science - so it doesnt always work without some other complications) my kid is legitimately ADHD .. no two ways about it. unable to focus or sit still - he would fail miserably in school - no matter how bright he is. the cascading impact of this could easily be failing at life. now he's succeeding - and he's no zombie .. he just has a better ability to focus. i dont suffer depression - but i understand it. it's easy for people who dont experience it to say 'suck it up - get over it" but if your brain doesnt have the chemical ability to do these things - your words have all the effect of some other unintelligible language.. these folks need some kind of medicine if they are going to be able to work, have relationships ..etc. everyone deserves a chance to have a healthy productive life... if drugs can get them there - then i'm all for it. but like i said - it's not an exact science. there has to be the right balance for each individual... it's like playing with fire. a lot of trial and error. still - if it were me - i'd prefer that to the alternative.
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But, as a whole, I believe that there is far, FAR too much unnecessary medicating going on...It's the unnecessary cases (which I truly believe have become the majority), that I have a problem with. EDIT: You have outlined pretty much every exception to what I've said (you're good at that :p)...And YOU are an excellent parent, you're there for your son, it's obvious how much you love him...You spend lots of time with him, you do what you know is best for him, you take a VERY active role in his life, and you are very protective of him. But, you can't ignore the fact that not all parents are like you...Many choose pills as an easy alternative to parenting (I've seen it, it's disgusting and sad)...There are so many 'parents' these days who just don't have the time or the patience to take care of their children properly...These are the same parents who blame horror movies, video games, society, etcetera for their children's bad behavior, while accepting no fault themselves.
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ok - i'll admit it
i'm on frontline for my fleas & ticks --- you all just don't know how itchy it gets oh & my shrink keeps asking why i think i'm a monkey - but i just fling pooh at her and she shuts up about it!
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You are entitled to your own opinion, Rayne, but to ignore those exceptions has absolutely nothing to do with simply "being offensive." It's just entirely two-dimensional, vain, short-sided, judgmental, and perpetuates the philistine social stigma that I alluded to above. Last edited by ChronoGrl; 05-10-2008 at 06:55 AM.
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I was taken to a few psychiatrists when I was younger and they tried to medicate me for ADD, social anxiety, and a few other things. I refused to be medicated and dealt with things myself... it just takes a lot of effort and self control. I did try a couple meds for a week at the most but I felt like I didn't have total control over myself on them. My techniques worked better anyway.
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