Alcohol V Weed

[urgeok]

one of the beautiful things about being an older guy is that you get to see the benefits of both drugs and alcohol via friends, family, and aquaintences.

I have never smoked a cigarette .. i've never taken any form of non prescription drug.

I drank a bit when i was a kid .. but as i got older the reality of losing a valuable day on the weekend with a shitty hangover lost its appeal. I hardly drink a damn thing now since my kid was born .. i dont know if i have more than 1 or 2 a month.
If i go out and its appropriate i might have 1 or 2 beer or caesars (something you poor americans havent heard of .. its the drink of the gods)

but although i understand the attraction of a slight happy buzz .. i am a fast drinker and by the time that little buzz comes (if at all) i have already lined up a great deal of alcohol waiting to enter my blood stream .. and i'll end up sleepy - with a headache.

I guess thats my true nature ...a tired guy (re my earlier post)

I dont knock alcohol .. i knock the people who use it to excess that cant handle it.

I'm completely with Vod on the legality issue ..
if i smoked .. i wouldnt think anything about smoking weed .. if it was legal.
Why it isnt legal i dont know since tobacco is .. which is insanely addictive.

therein lies the confusion .. the inconsistency of government and law.

if you are going to make weed illegal then cigarettes and alcohol should be too.

man that was a long note .. i need a drink .... bartender !

[wufong]

Originally posted by Vodstok
touch it. Add to this myt wife is a criminal justice major and wants to be a cop, i wouldnt and couldnt try it again if i wanted to.
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o ya. that'll stop ya alright, cause we all know how cops never condone the use of mara.:rolleyes: im sooooooooooooooo jk.
but on a serious note. what cheeba said about people not driving while effected by the drug isn't quite correct. and its just as dangerous to smoke and drive as it is to drink and drive. just like drunks, stoners will always say and think that being under the influence doesn't effect their ability to drive. i don't know the exact number. but i think the number of car crashes amongst people under the age of 30 have been involved about 60-70% of them had drugs in their system.

[Vodstok]

You are correct there, wufong. ANYTHING that inhibits your concentration or motor skills is dangerous. try having 3 or 4 cigarrettes on an empty stomach. the nicotene goes straight to your brain and makes you woozy.

In Cheeba's defence, though, he said that smoking weed makes you unmotivated to drive in the first place.

[urgeok]

its hard to drive with a pizza in one hand a bag of cheezies in the other and a stack of 'b' horror movies on your lap :)

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by urgeok
its hard to drive with a pizza in one hand a bag of cheezies in the other and a stack of 'b' horror movies on your lap :)

Ohhh...It's not as hard as you might think......... :p

[bwind22]

"God gave you all seed-bearing plants to use."

^^^ That's in the Bible. Also, it common knowledge that our the founders of America farmed hemp. As a matter of fact, the U.S. Constitution is written on hemp. So how, you may ask, did it come to be illegal? Well, well, well... Lucky for you, here comes bwind22 to shed some light.

Ever heard of the movie 'Reefer Madness'? Well, it happens to be the most popular in a wide variety of anti-marijuana propaganda films released to the public in the 1930s. You see, hemp is a more effective form of paper production than trees. That presented a problem for many lumberbarons (Like William Randolph Hearst) and, potentially, threatened their wealth. Lucky for them, they had friends in high places. They called in a few favors and the next thing you know, we have propganda movies like the aforementioned 'Reefer Madness' portraying users of marijuana becoming suddenly unable to control their lust or sporatically plunging through an 8 story window to their death. The rest is history and here we are...

That last paragraph is exactly how and why marijuana is illegal in the USA.

That being said, I've smoked weed pretty consistently for the past nine year. :D

[Vodstok]

bwind... the voice of pro-weed conspiracy theorists.

Not all hemp has THC in it. And our founding fathers werent exactly the most reputable, idealic people we once thought.

[wufong]

Originally posted by bwind22
"God gave you all seed-bearing plants to use."

^^^ That's in the Bible. Also, it common knowledge that our the founders of America farmed hemp. As a matter of fact, the U.S. Constitution is written on hemp. So how, you may ask, did it come to be illegal? Well, well, well... Lucky for you, here comes bwind22 to shed some light.

Ever heard of the movie 'Reefer Madness'? Well, it happens to be the most popular in a wide variety of anti-marijuana propaganda films released to the public in the 1930s. You see, hemp is a more effective form of paper production than trees. That presented a problem for many lumberbarons (Like William Randolph Hearst) and, potentially, threatened their wealth. Lucky for them, they had friends in high places. They called in a few favors and the next thing you know, we have propganda movies like the aforementioned 'Reefer Madness' portraying users of marijuana becoming suddenly unable to control their lust or sporatically plunging through an 8 story window to their death. The rest is history and here we are...

That last paragraph is exactly how and why marijuana is illegal in the USA.

That being said, I've smoked weed pretty consistently for the past nine year. :D

yup hemp is a fantastic plant. and not just for smoking. the tasmainian goverment here has just allowed trials on this generic engineered plant. to be used for paper ropes ,clotheing. or w/e. the only diff between this plant and a regular plant is that you would have to about a acre of the stuff to just geta slight buzz. in fact they said you'll be dead from smoke inhalanation before ya could get buzz.

[newb]

I think most of you know which one I would pick.



I tried the maryjane when I was younger and didn't like the paranoid feeling I would get.

Of course growing up with a cop for a dad may have had some bearing on my choice of substance.

[bwind22]

Originally posted by newb
I think most of you know which one I would pick.



I tried the maryjane when I was younger and didn't like the paranoid feeling I would get.

Of course growing up with a cop for a dad may have had some bearing on my choice of substance.

But... but... but... You're Budman! :eek:

I thought for sure you were a toker! :)