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View Poll Results: What is your stance on abortion?
Completely for it - knowledgeable 7 21.88%
Abortion ok, but not in case of partial birth - knowledgeable 7 21.88%
Completey against it - knowledgeable 15 46.88%
Completely for it - not knowledgeable 0 0%
Abortion ok, but not in case of partial birth - not knowledgeable 3 9.38%
Completely against it - not knowledgeable 0 0%
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Old 02-15-2004, 12:17 PM
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Here, I will distill this whole ting to its base parts.....


Abortion should not be used as a form of birth control for thoses who dont feel like using a pill or copndom, BUT, should be available.

PArtial Birth abortion is SICK, and really should only be used in cases where the mother will die without it.

Regular abortion for women who will die from giving birth, were raped, or are victims of fate in some other way should have nice, vclean, legal facilities available to them without question.


Women who have had an abortion are ALWAYS affected by it emotionally. It is not a "get out of motherhood free" card, it comes with a heavy emotional price that most pro-lifers convenietnly ignore.


Finally, If you are pro-life, then you are volunteering to care for the children that would have otherwise been aborted. If it is ever made illeagal, i will be advertisisng your homes as places for mother to drop off thei runwanted children. By forcing them to have them, you have volunteered to be their caretakers. Have a ball.
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Old 02-15-2004, 12:38 PM
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Finally, If you are pro-life, then you are volunteering to care for the children that would have otherwise been aborted. If it is ever made illeagal, i will be advertisisng your homes as places for mother to drop off thei runwanted children. By forcing them to have them, you have volunteered to be their caretakers. Have a ball.
never thought of that, but good one. people always say 'you got pregnant, you're stuck with it.' now as much of an ass that i can be, id go along with that, except how about the child? sure, stupid ass teenagers should take responsibility for their actions, but as much as i'd like for them to have to give up and dreams and partying that they wanted to do, i really couldnt do that to a child.

again, i'm not for partial birth abortion EXCEPT in very special cases (eg my aunt and the brain tumor). however i'm all for gettin a shot/pill and gettin rid of it, rather than raising a kid in a bad situation. you know how most of them turn out.....
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Old 02-15-2004, 01:11 PM
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Finally, If you are pro-life, then you are volunteering to care for the children that would have otherwise been aborted. If it is ever made illeagal, i will be advertisisng your homes as places for mother to drop off thei runwanted children. By forcing them to have them, you have volunteered to be their caretakers. Have a ball.
I aint volunteerng for shit.People need to take responsbilitys on themselves if they think there responsible enough to get there groove on then they sure as hell need to take responsibility for that child.There are people willing to adopt that cant have children, and sometmes there on awaiting list for years before they ever get to adopt so theres more then eough people willing to adopt.Your making an excuse for people to not take responsibility for there action.so what if the same person has 3 abortions because they keep getting pregnant?they aint learning shit that way and your telling that person its ok??bullshit
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Old 02-15-2004, 01:23 PM
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I aint volunteerng for shit.People need to take responsbilitys on themselves if they think there responsible enough to get there groove on then they sure as hell need to take responsibility for that child.There are people willing to adopt that cant have children, and sometmes there on awaiting list for years before they ever get to adopt so theres more then eough people willing to adopt.Your making an excuse for people to not take responsibility for there action.so what if the same person has 3 abortions because they keep getting pregnant?they aint learning shit that way and your telling that person its ok??bullshit
So you're either not having sex, or you're hoping that the condom doesn't break, right? People do take responsibilities for their actions- that's why birth control was invented. Like I said earlier, people like to have sex, and mistakes still happen. Teens have sex all the time, and they're practicing it safely. When a mishap does happen, and they're not at all suitable to raise a child, what are they supposed to do? The only other option is adoption, but which is more difficult? Have an abortion, or put your child up for adoption? I don't want that answered, because it's not part of this debate. I just want you to think about it.
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Old 02-15-2004, 01:25 PM
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If you think it has a soul, which makes it human, which makes abortion wrong, that's fine for you. But you can't make it illegal based on that.
I could care ess if it is illegal or not.. I think everyone is entitled to do whatever they want to their bodies, but when something is growing inside of you that is another person and killing it is wrong IMO.



I just find it funny that I can go out to a clinic and get a baby ripped out of me after 2 1/2 months of it being inside of me legally, but then I go smoke a joint and I go to jail... Ha Ha

This is an neverending debate, I have been a few pschology classes and debates/discussions about this subject end up in threats and shit like that. Anyone who is for abortion will voice their opinion and anyone who is not will surely voice their opinion as well. You are for it or eighter your not... case closed
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Old 02-15-2004, 01:45 PM
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I aint volunteerng for shit.People need to take responsbilitys on themselves if they think there responsible enough to get there groove on then they sure as hell need to take responsibility for that child.There are people willing to adopt that cant have children, and sometmes there on awaiting list for years before they ever get to adopt so theres more then eough people willing to adopt.Your making an excuse for people to not take responsibility for there action.so what if the same person has 3 abortions because they keep getting pregnant?they aint learning shit that way and your telling that person its ok??bullshit
I make no excuse for anyone. your insistance of your point, and I of mine are the reason your logic fails. People dont change, or do so rarely. Irresponsible people wont just BECOME responsible. You are making excuses. People with your attitude live in a fantasy world where people have something bad happen to them, and they shape up overnight. Grow up.

And yes, you are volunteering. Quit trying to dictatae what people can and can not do with their bodies.


And do you knwo anyone who hase ever had more than one abortion? do you have any good, relieble, documented proof? What-if arguments are useless without some data to back them up.
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