Kids Dying Violent Deaths in Horror

[moonsorrow]

the same reason they use a female character in silent hill 3, its been proven, as males we are protective of women, thats why we are the stronger gender, instinct makes us protect, not terms like "gentlemen." its the same way id be with my little brother, or some random 13 year old getting ass ass beat by the local gangs, our instinct (male or female) wants us to protect these little buggars so it makes us more uncomfortable around thesethings.

[massacre man]

Originally posted by moonsorrow
the same reason they use a female character in silent hill 3, its been proven, as males we are protective of women, thats why we are the stronger gender, instinct makes us protect, not terms like "gentlemen." its the same way id be with my little brother, or some random 13 year old getting ass ass beat by the local gangs, our instinct (male or female) wants us to protect these little buggars so it makes us more uncomfortable around thesethings.

i 13 i dont think any gangs are gonna mess with me in 6 foot 3 and like i weigh like alot

[moonsorrow]

size doesnt matter, im 6 ft tall, weigh about 80 kilos, i work out so im buff, i got vampire fangs and a little drop of blood coming down my eye so it looks like a tear, i wear chains and bullets across my chest... i look like the thing that comes out of your works nightmares and people still start shit, no matter who you are your giong to end up in truble sooner or later, and no matter who you are, doesnt matter how strong, how fast or how good, there will always be a bigger fish.

[massacre man]

Originally posted by moonsorrow
size doesnt matter, im 6 ft tall, weigh about 80 kilos, i work out so im buff, i got vampire fangs and a little drop of blood coming down my eye so it looks like a tear, i wear chains and bullets across my chest... i look like the thing that comes out of your works nightmares and people still start shit, no matter who you are your giong to end up in truble sooner or later, and no matter who you are, doesnt matter how strong, how fast or how good, there will always be a bigger fish.

were talkin about people not fish lol

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by Stingy Jack
One thing you don't see a lot of in horror films is children meeting a violent end. I can think of the scene in Halloween 3, and some friends of mine saw the new Exorcist movie last night and said there is a scene that depicts a kid getting torn apart by jackals ... or hyenas. Don't remember. Why do you think this type of scene is rarely touched in horror films, and can you think of any other scenes besides the two I mentioned? (Night of the Living Dead doesn't count. The child doesn't die violently there ... and we don't actually see Ben kill her re-animated corpse).

Personally, I think directors shy away from this type of thing because showing the violent death of a child for sensationalistic purposes may cause them quite a bit of grief. And such scenes do seem to be more disturbing to me ... although, I realize the kid probably got a nice paycheck in the end. I, for one, wouldn't raise a stink if they showed more of this in films. After all, it's getting harder and harder for films to actually horrify nowadays, and such scenes would definitely contribute to this neglected emotion.

Pet Semetary - Gage gets hit by a semi truck
ummmm...
lots of troma movies but that doesn't really count

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
Pet Semetary - Gage gets hit by a semi truck

I was going to mention this because Stephen King has always wanted to portray children dying violent deaths...The reason being that it is horrifying, and therefore contributes to the 'horror' theme overall...The scene that we actually saw when Gage was killed, was NOT the scene that King had envisioned...

King was told to either drastically alter or remove a scene in Maximum Overdrive, where a boy on the ballfield was run over by a steamroller, feet first, ending with his brains bursting out of the top of his head...They told him that the film would get an X rating, if he didn't comply...It STILL pisses him off...

Perhaps if he weren't so restrained whenever he tried to bring his books to the screen, his movies wouldn't be so bad...Just a thought

[massacre man]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
I was going to mention this because Stephen King has always wanted to portray children dying violent deaths...The reason being that it is horrifying, and therefore contributes to the 'horror' theme overall...The scene that we actually saw when Gage was killed, was NOT the scene that King had envisioned...

King was told to either drastically alter or remove a scene in Maximum Overdrive, where a boy on the ballfield was run over by a steamroller, feet first, ending with his brains bursting out of the top of his head...They told him that the film would get an X rating, if he didn't comply...It STILL pisses him off...

Perhaps if he weren't so restrained whenever he tried to bring his books to the screen, his movies wouldn't be so bad...Just a thought

why worry about it midgets are the same size it wouldnt get any different rating if a midget was crushed by a steamroller

[Stingy Jack]

BloodRayne, I was just about to mention the steamroller scene in Maximum Overdrive. Gauge's death doesn't really count, because you don't actually see him get hit by the truck ... but you do see the boy get steamrolled.

MM, I think moonsorrow has a point. It's not really the size of the kid, but the age. They're so young that their inexperience has them living in the age of innocence ... and I think it's this innocence that we, as adults, want to protect. Midgets are small, but not necessarily innocent. The more innocent the child (the younger, for example), the more we don't want to see it's death. I think the most memorable scene, for example, in Titanic was when they showed the mother holding her cold, dead infant in the water.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Stingy Jack
BloodRayne, I was just about to mention the steamroller scene in Maximum Overdrive. Gauge's death doesn't really count, because you don't actually see him get hit by the truck

That's what I was talking about...King WANTED us to see it, but....

[massacre man]

only kids know its fake and thats why its rated R you dont take little kids to see it its a fake death and if you see a kid on a movie die 2 months later youll see them on a commercial dancing with vacuums