Gun Control Debate

[PR3SSUR3]

Not really, it's part of our identity because it's a RIGHT. Personally I don't own a gun and probably never will. I'll go shooting with my Wife's uncle but that's about it. However, I oppose any law that would take any freedom away from the people

But over the years Americans have proved that they are not fit to have this right anymore, what with all the murders and whatnot.

[newb]

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

Because many Americans are thick as fuck, which sadly means the power of a gun replaces the power of their own brains in many troublesome situations.

NOW WAIT JUST A COTTON PICK'N MINUTE, PILGRIM



I don't think the "right to bear arms" should be the issue as much as the process of obtaining weapons. You have to go through weeks of schooling to get a license to drive yet in some states even people on medication for psychological problems can get not one but two handguns in the span of three weeks.

[_____V_____]

The incident at VA is a sad one. Especially because such a case had never happened before. Anyone who is an American wont do such shit. We have had our McVeighs and Dahmers but this was totally uncalled for and unnecessary.

Remember USA is a Union of States. And a lot of the integrity of this country is dependent on the Constitution that the forefathers wrote. The right to hold a gun is something which has been exercised by a lot of the citizens, and the state that this country lives in, it is imperative that people do it. Its not that they are insecure, but tomorrow when need be, under any situation, they can fall back on it.

It all boils down to this...is this question moral or Constitutional? Either choice will lead to completely different answers.

[Roderick Usher]

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

But over the years Americans have proved that they are not fit to have this right anymore, what with all the murders and whatnot.

But there are more guns, a higher percentage of gun owners and more lax gun laws in Canada than the US...and they have a lower murder rate.

It isn't the guns that are the problem. It's the culture of fear and paranoia that's at the root of the problem. We are constantly being told how unsafe we are by our leaders and the media. The American press adage "if it bleeds, it leads" is ingrained into our newsstories to the point that ONLY sensational stories of people being wronged or attacked get any attention.

It's a huge cultural problem. :(

[_____V_____]

Originally Posted by newb

I don't think the "right to bear arms" should be the issue as much as the process of obtaining weapons. You have to go through weeks of schooling to get a license to drive yet in some states even people on medication for psychological problems can get not one but two handguns in the span of three weeks.

How many of em are really deemed fit to be even worthy of having a gun let alone two? In most states, it isnt bothered with.

Its like walking into a store and asking "Lemme have a gun..." and presto, he got one.

[_____V_____]

If you are blaming the upsurge in recent times about owning a gun, think back to 9/11, and Bin Laden's comments about Jehadists in every nook and cranny of the US. Can we really blame the people for wanting at least one gun in their homes?

[AmericanManiac]

If they did do something to ban fire arms, it still isn't going to stop the criminals from owning a gun, there is still the black market. So I think I would have the right to defend myself with a firearm if somebody is endangering my life, my families or another individual. Some states have different laws, about this mine for example if an intruder breaks into your house and you shoot and kill him, then you the victim that shot him is facing murder charges, and it relies on you to show that it was self defense.

[newb]

Originally Posted by _____V_____

How many of em are really deemed fit to be even worthy of having a gun let alone two? In most states, it isnt bothered with.

Its like walking into a store and asking "Lemme have a gun..." and presto, he got one.

Exactly.......and this case in particular is very disturbing. There where so many red flags going off.....christ this guy had to be tutored because students were afraid of him.

[_____V_____]

AM got a point there. Tweaking the Constitution and taking away the right wont be the cure here, because THEN the common man will be deprived of one defence he has. There has to be some other method out of this...

[Despare]

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

But over the years Americans have proved that they are not fit to have this right anymore, what with all the murders and whatnot.

No, SOME people aren't fit to have that right. Cho was already 6 when he came to this country which means that America wasn't the ONLY influence throughout his life. You can ban guns all you want but the people who want to use them will still get or make them. AM got there first, good post heh.

Originally Posted by Roderick Usher

It's a huge cultural problem. :(

Which culture? We have such a mish-mash of culutres and identities that there's almost a lack of our own.