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Old 11-03-2006, 08:15 AM
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Our country was founded by, and is still under the control of, religious extremists.
I had a nice big rant in my head about how America was founded by Puritans, and how their mentality spread through the midwest of this country, and sets the standard for "morals" here, but you got stright to the point with one sentance.

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However, this is the very heart of the thing.. Look what kind of people we have here: The puritans didnt want people wearing bright colors. You would be killed for this. Never mind that they began breeding at 13 i think. (at least, 13 year old girls)

our country has a long history of turning the words of a sweet natured guy who just wnated everyone to be friends (Jesus) and twisting them.

Do you really think "God hates fags"? i thought it was a sin to put words in god's mouth...

People here DO freak out about violence, but for the wrong reasons. They think that violent entertainment causes violent behavior, when it really just , at worst, gives a violent mind ideas. If someone watches, say, Swordfish, then straps plastic explosives and ballbearings to someone, then the movie didnt do anythign but give him an idea of how to channel his violent thoughts. Even if the movie did not exists, there was a pretty damn good chnace that THAT guy was going to act out anyway.

Also, look at the coutry as a whole with regards to the subject of sex. The same idiots who show pictures of dead babies to protest abortion, also protest teaching sex and providing contraception by schools. theya re apparently unaware that the current population is strainign what our planet is capable of supporting. but then again, they have a little bit of trouble with Science and "rality" in general.
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:16 AM
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so i take it you find it disturbing as well ?

it's not a healthy balance ...

It's fucking retarded. Sex is natural and healthy and fun and it hurts no one!

I'm gonna put the blame on parents as well. I'm raising my kids to wildly open minded about sex (my 9 year-old's favorite film is Hedwig and the Angry Inch) in hopes of stemming the tide.

I hate that Mothman feels bad watyching nudity/sex scenes in front of his parents. It's an institutionalized fear of all things sexual.
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:17 AM
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LOL...I was waiting for you to come out with this ;)

I really can't explain it to you any better than I tried to before...The best that I could come up with was the fact that my kids know the violence, blood, guts, death, etcetera is all fake...They even know exactly how it's done, and often critique the effects if they feel that they could have been done a better or different way...The nudity, however is real...

And...the sex parts are just boring for me...and NOT what I paid to watch...

"If I watch a horror movie...I wanna see HORROR...If I wanna watch people have sex, I'll get a porno"...and my other worn out quote..."I have never been scared by a tit or an ass in my entire life, and I doubt that I ever will"

I KNOW that doesn't make sense to you...But, honestly that's about the best I've got

well, i think your analogy breaks down here .. your posts suggests that horror is ok because it's fake, and nudity (which you keep curiously equating with sex - is real) but porno (which i never mentioned - just nudity) is ok if it's a porno you want.

the question i'm curious about - is why do you think nudity (not porn which is people graphically having sex - something you rarely ever see in a horror) is more innapropriate than gore - fake or not ?

thats the part i cant understand ...


personally - I think north american sex senes ARE boring as hell.. its about as appealing as cleaning fish.

i love the way europeans are completely aware that its a natural part of being human... and they celebrate it.
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OH...Perfect example:

Hostel...HALF of that movie was a waste of time...No one even stubbed a toe in almost the entire first hour (which was nothing but softcore porn, and bored me to tears)...That is NOT a horror movie...If the entire movie had been similar to the last half hour, THAT would have been a HORROR movie...and a damned good one at that

Maybe it's boring because I can have sex whenever I want, and watching other people do it does absolutely nothing for me...BUT, I could NEVER just cut someone's head off, or rip out their guts, so it's fun to watch...Because it is NOT something that people do everyday...Does that make sense?...

It's like, I wouldn't wanna watch them doing laundry or washing dishes for an hour either...That's just boring every day shit...
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:19 AM
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I think Hostel is a great example of a movie that takes it too far. Eli Roth really should have gotten laid more in high school. No doubt he was a virgin until his late 20s...
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:21 AM
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It's like, I wouldn't wanna watch them doing laundry or washing dishes for an hour either...That's just boring every day shit...
Unless you were to do that topless.





sorry.......lost my train of thought
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:22 AM
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because nudity is just gross. but violence is sexy and hot in my opinion.
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Old 11-03-2006, 08:24 AM
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i havent even seen hostel but i can tell you this .. Hostel is a grindhouse homage.
Grindhouse was all about getting away with as much sex and violence on screen as possible - and a lot was possible because these films were never meant for the mainstream moviehouses.

not only has there been a broad recent trend of remaking old horror films - there has also been a growing nostalgia for the old grindhouse films and they're slowly but surely making their way back into the theatres..
and as in every new resurgence of anything old - the values people appreciated in the origionals are amped up 'to 11' in the new wave .. its the way they always do things ..
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because nudity is just gross. but violence is sexy and hot in my opinion.
you see a shrink?
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because nudity is just gross. but violence is sexy and hot in my opinion.
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