Abortion - actual thread

[PsychoticPanda]

Originally posted by VampRocker
Haven't I explained it? I think I've explained it...

"in the womb: not developed, not human for like 2 months"

How do you know that? How can ANYBODY know that? It's playing God to assume you do know, for a fact, how humans are created. What do scientists know?

You're right. It doesn't matter it it's just a fetus, or something. It's still a human life, OR a potential human life. And it's still murder IMO.

If you don't want the baby, give it up for adoption. Don't kill it.

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by PsychoticPanda
You're right. It doesn't matter it it's just a fetus, or something. It's still a human life, OR a potential human life. And it's still murder IMO.

If you don't want the baby, give it up for adoption. Don't kill it.

Oh, POTENTIAL human life? Well, each sperm is potential human life, do you think we should outlaw masturbation and birth control?

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Arioch
Its different with murder, thats infrindging on another persons body, and i think to deny anyone their own right to decide about THEIR own body is dangerous territory.

What about the BABY's body?...I don't give a damn what anyone does to their OWN body...If someone wants to cut their arm off, or blow their fucking brains out, I really don't give a shit...I'm talking about what they're doing to the BABY...By the way, It's the decision they made about what to DO WITH THEIR BODY, that got them pregnant in the first place...People need to take some responsibility for their actions...DAMN

[Sam The Egg]

By the way, It's the decision they made about what to DO WITH THEIR BODY, that got them pregnant in the first place...People need to take some responsibility for their actions...DAMN

Once again, what about cases in which she was raped?

And Rotting Eye already went over this, so I'll just quote him:

Technically, the genetic composition may be different, but it's still a part of a woman's body. Until the baby can function without having to depend on the umbilical cord, it's connected, and part of the body. It's almost like a bud, or extension of the woman...

[Rotting Eye]

Seperating church and state, things in the womb do not have souls.

Based on what Sam has been saying, which is fact, babies don't even start to develop anything vital until after the first few months. How do you murder something that isn't even alive? Take away the umbilical cord, and that fetus is going to die.

And stop giving these "what if" situations. You have to look both ways.

Also, as far as I'm concerned scientists are playing God.. God intended for man and woman to conceive a child, and that child inherits all their traits from mom and dad. Anyone watch the news? I don't know if it's another hoax, but someone has claimed to have cloned a human. What comes next? DNA splicing as to change the traits of a child (ex: hair color, genetic diseases, height, etc etc.) Sounds like God's job.

Here's something else to think about: babies are a parasite heh. Want a definition?
"Biology. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host."

[PsychoticPanda]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Oh, POTENTIAL human life? Well, each sperm is potential human life, do you think we should outlaw masturbation and birth control?

I think killing babies is a little different than masturbation...

If you don't want babies, then unless a man forces himself upon a woman, maybe she should keep her legs together. THAT is choice. People say "Pro choice, a woman should choose whether she wants the baby, or not." When, most the time you can choose to have sex or not. Which is choosing to be pregnant, or not.

[Sam The Egg]

I was about to bring up the parasite thing. It's true.
They still won't care, though.

[Rotting Eye]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
What about the BABY's body?...I don't give a damn what anyone does to their OWN body...If someone wants to cut their arm off, or blow their fucking brains out, I really don't give a shit...I'm talking about what they're doing to the BABY...By the way, It's the decision they made about what to DO WITH THEIR BODY, that got them pregnant in the first place...People need to take some responsibility for their actions...DAMN

1) What Sam quoted me.

2) People do take responsibilities for their actions. Look up the statistics on birth control. I don't remember them exactly. Condoms 93% effective, the pill 99.8%, IUDs 96%, etc etc..
Abstinence is the only 100%. Who doesn't like to have sex? Give me a break... That's why birth control was invented. People do take responsibilities for their actions, but mistakes still happen.

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by PsychoticPanda
I think killing babies is a little different than masturbation...

If you don't want babies, then unless a man forces himself upon a woman, maybe she should keep her legs together. THAT is choice. People say "Pro choice, a woman should choose whether she wants the baby, or not." When, most the time you can choose to have sex or not. Which is choosing to be pregnant, or not.

It's not a baby, it's a POTENTIAL baby. And if you bring potential into it, then you can't ignore everything except what you want to count.

[Rotting Eye]

Originally posted by PsychoticPanda
I think killing babies is a little different than masturbation...

If you don't want babies, then unless a man forces himself upon a woman, maybe she should keep her legs together. THAT is choice. People say "Pro choice, a woman should choose whether she wants the baby, or not." When, most the time you can choose to have sex or not. Which is choosing to be pregnant, or not.

Everytime a woman menstruates, or a male ejaculates there's possibility of a child. Hell, for every one child to be born, millions of other sperm die.. Those are all possible children.

Maybe the secret is, we should just stop having altogether kids, to save everyone!! YES I FOUND THE ANSWER! -_-

Then again there are still wet dreams...

If you want to fight semantics, let's do it :p