Touchy Subject

[chaibill]

Originally Posted by paws the great

What do we take from other countries?



Diplomacy with North Korea failed in the 90's.... can we trust them now?I don't think so.

1. oil, metals, wood, rock, and we destroy the land to do it

2. it failed when Bush stop talking with them Can we trust them we can't even trust your president

[paws the great]

Originally Posted by chaibill

1. oil, metals, wood, rock, and we destroy they land to do it

2. it failed when Bush stop talking with them Can we trust them we can't even trust your president

1.I thought other countries sold this crap to us!:confused:

2. Bush was our president in the 90's?:confused:

[chaibill]

Originally Posted by paws the great

1.I thought other countries sold this crap to us!:confused:

2. Bush was our president in the 90's?:confused:

No this Bush wasn't talkig to Kim Jung Il because he is part of "the axis of evil, you see" So Bush thought it would be a good idea to not have relations with him and make him wonder if the US will still send N korea food

they sell us the products but the us takes advantage go visit some of these places

[stubbornforgey]

Originally Posted by chaibill

No this Bush wasn't talkig to Kim Jung Il because he is part of "the axis of evil, you see" So Bush thought it would be a good idea to not have relations with him and make him wonder if the US will still send N korea food

they sell us the products but the us takes advantage go visit some of these places

hahahahahaha..you said 'RELATIONS'

[ferretchucker]

Originally Posted by paws the great

The first country Germany attacked was Poland ........in (1939)


BRITAIN declared war on Germany one month later!Hitler invades one nation and BRITAIN declares WAR! Why?

Did BRITAIN choose war...before giving peace a chance?Warmongers?

you need to brush up on your history. germany had already invaded several countries and we gave him a warning. we said "ifyou invade Poland, we will declare war on you." And they did.

Another note that annoys me:

Then, we ask america for a hand and they refuse. So, several years in, we had allies, the french had fucked off and Hitler was just as evil. Japan bombs pearl harbour for no reason. What happens. America beg for our help. And we say yes. Japan become feared everywhere for their evil ways and in the end, after the war has ended, after most of the fighting had stopped, someone says "let's drop an A bomb on them!" Hiroshima becomes the worst place to be...ever. Children vapourized, a tornado of fire sucking people in as the cling on for dear life. Horrible stuff but it did have to be done. My point is, all this crap americans give us about "Oh we saved your arse in world war 2," is utter shite. We were winning and would have done. We had russia, some of australia, plenty of countries. America only aided in our winning when they needed help.

[paws the great]

[QUOTE=chaibill;600231]No this Bush wasn't talkig to Kim Jung Il because he is part of "the axis of evil, you see" So Bush thought it would be a good idea to not have relations with him and make him wonder if the US will still send N korea food

they sell us the products but the us takes advantage go visit some of these places


:D :D :D :D :D

[stubbornforgey]

Originally Posted by ferretchucker

you need to brush up on your history. germany had already invaded several countries and we gave him a warning. we said "ifyou invade Poland, we will declare war on you." And they did.

Another note that annoys me:

Then, we ask america for a hand and they refuse. So, several years in, we had allies, the french had fucked off and Hitler was just as evil. Japan bombs pearl harbour for no reason. What happens. America beg for our help. And we say yes. Japan become feared everywhere for their evil ways and in the end, after the war has ended, after most of the fighting had stopped, someone says "let's drop an A bomb on them!" Hiroshima becomes the worst place to be...ever. Children vapourized, a tornado of fire sucking people in as the cling on for dear life. Horrible stuff but it did have to be done. My point is, all this crap americans give us about "Oh we saved your arse in world war 2," is utter shite. We were winning and would have done. We had russia, some of australia, plenty of countries. America only aided in our winning when they needed help.

Ummmmmmm no..your wrong

The war was in full swing..indeed.
America did not ask for help..in such a sense as you describe
they however became involved when one of thier own was bombed..
and to be honest..the majority of the world involved..needed Americas help to win the war.

Do not take away Americas involvement in helping secure the end of the world wars..many good men fought and died from all over and they deserve to be remembered with the utmost respect. and not have thier memories dragged through some bitter debate on a horror forum many years later.

[paws the great]

Originally Posted by stubbornforgey

Ummmmmmm no..your wrong

The war was in full swing..indeed.
America did not ask for help..in such a sense as you describe
they however became involved when one of thier own was bombed..
and to be honest..the majority of the world involved..needed Americas help to win the war.

Do not take away Americas involvement in helping secure the end of the world wars..many good men fought and died from all over and they deserve to be remembered with the utmost respect. and not have thier memories dragged through some bitter debate on a horror forum many years later.

Thank you!:)

[ferretchucker]

War is a horrible thing that should be avoided at all costs. They helped us I agree and we would have lost many more of our men had they not, but it pisses me off when I get shit about them saving our arses and how they won it for us, because when they do, they're making it seem like our soldiers did nothing. war causes so many arguments. I'm glad Tony Blaire has resigned finally because gordon brown will almost definetely pull our soldiers out of Iraq and when bush comes out of power, hopefully the next president will do the same.

[stubbornforgey]

Originally Posted by ferretchucker

War is a horrible thing that should be avoided at all costs. They helped us I agree and we would have lost many more of our men had they not, but it pisses me off when I get shit about them saving our arses and how they won it for us, because when they do, they're making it seem like our soldiers did nothing. war causes so many arguments. I'm glad Tony Blaire has resigned finally because gordon brown will almost definetely pull our soldiers out of Iraq and when bush comes out of power, hopefully the next president will do the same.

oh dear..
America likes to immortalise thier war heroes through movies..songs..auto-biography..
There is nothing stopping other countries from doing the same.
They do not at any rate take the glory away from other soldiers who fought side by side with them.
Here in NZ we have many movies about the Maori Battalion who fought in WW1 and thier smartass tactics :D my great grandfather is mentioned in many of these movies.
America has a movies out about Windtalkers' depicting the input by thier indians..
However Australia has nothing out about the Aboriginies who fought alongside them.
War is never a great debate but at the end of the day we have much to be thankful for because of it.