Abortion: Yay or Nay?

[Arioch]

However I don't believe that gives me the right to make others have the same belief.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: OMG!! I DIDN'T THINK CONSERVATIVES COULD THINK THAT WAY! Bravo to you HC, if all conservatives we're as non-oppresive in their OWN beliefs i wouldn't have ANY problem with them at all. Goddamn that made my day....

*wonders off talking to self*

Goddamn a conservative that lets other people believe differently....ill tell ya......this world is quite a place.....

[Stingy Jack]

LoL at Arioch

[bwind22]

Originally posted by Arioch
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: OMG!! I DIDN'T THINK CONSERVATIVES COULD THINK THAT WAY! Bravo to you HC, if all conservatives we're as non-oppresive in their OWN beliefs i wouldn't have ANY problem with them at all. Goddamn that made my day....

*wonders off talking to self*

Goddamn a conservative that lets other people believe differently....ill tell ya......this world is quite a place.....

Make that 2. I tend to be a bit on the conservative side, but I really make a conscious effort to look at every issue from all sides. One thing I understand, when debating, most of the time, you will not change that person's mind. I keep that in mind and try to keep my debates as non-offensive as possible.

:D

[sugar shane]

I think that abortion should be completely legal, but only after the child has been born and hits their teenage years.

[Arioch]

Make that 2. I tend to be a bit on the conservative side, but I really make a conscious effort to look at every issue from all sides. One thing I understand, when debating, most of the time, you will not change that person's mind. I keep that in mind and try to keep my debates as non-offensive as possible.

For real, i can appreciate that. Most of the Conservatives ive talked (fucking screamed my head off at) to tend to look at the issues, and approach the debate, with the idea of recruiting others to their ideas.

Its kinda wierd....like people who call you when your 18 asking you to join the army....its cool that it can be just a discussion with you guys, and that you dont try to change peoples minds about it, because in a debate, its really impossible isn't it?

[bwind22]

Originally posted by Arioch
For real, i can appreciate that. Most of the Conservatives ive talked (fucking screamed my head off at) to tend to look at the issues, and approach the debate, with the idea of recruiting others to their ideas.

Its kinda wierd....like people who call you when your 18 asking you to join the army....its cool that it can be just a discussion with you guys, and that you dont try to change peoples minds about it, because in a debate, its really impossible isn't it?

Yeah, it's a lost cause. Especially in debates about topics of this nature. (I might be able to persuade someone into agreeing that Skittles are better than M&Ms or something, but getting them to believe in God or change their view on abortion is another story. You know what I'm sayin? Lol.)

Anyways, I know the stubborn conservatives you are talking about because both my mom and dad fall into the catergory. I debate/argue them almost constantly about this whole ordeal in Iraq and the Middle East. (They fully support everything Bush does just because he is a republican president in much the same they had a major problem with everything Clinton did.) Their stubborness blinds them to the obvious fact that we went into Iraw under false pretenses. They look at it as 'Saddam was a bad guy. It's better for the world for him to be gone.' Which I agree with, BUT I also look at it as 'We were lied to. Our reason for being there was false, so what's the real reason we went in?' The answer is disturbing. No one is going to say Saddam wasn't a bad guy, but he wasn't the worst. Iran and North Korea are both countries that were bigger threats to our national security than Iraq at the time we went in.

That's all, I'm beginning to ramble so I'm gonna cut myself off right there.

[Arioch]

Anyways, I know the stubborn conservatives you are talking about because both my mom and dad fall into the catergory. I debate/argue them almost constantly about this whole ordeal in Iraq and the Middle East. (They fully support everything Bush does just because he is a republican president in much the same they had a major problem with everything Clinton did.) Their stubborness blinds them to the obvious fact that we went into Iraw under false pretenses. They look at it as 'Saddam was a bad guy. It's better for the world for him to be gone.' Which I agree with, BUT I also look at it as 'We were lied to. Our reason for being there was false, so what's the real reason we went in?' The answer is disturbing. No one is going to say Saddam wasn't a bad guy, but he wasn't the worst. Iran and North Korea are both countries that were bigger threats to our national security than Iraq at the time we went in.

EXACTLY!!!!!God i know SO many people this way...Democrats too!

[yourlastmistake]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Thank you...That was very considerate...I accept...and I TOLD Arioch you were one of the good ones...I love being right ;) :)

Thanks. For you, I'll try and be more tolerant of others.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by yourlastmistake
Thanks. For you, I'll try and be more tolerant of others.

That was really sweet...and we should ALL be "more tolerant of others"..So, thanks again :)

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Arioch
Most of the Conservatives ive talked (fucking screamed my head off at) to tend to look at the issues, and approach the debate, with the idea of recruiting others to their ideas.

When you get to the point of "screaming your head off", no one is listening anymore...So, screaming tends to be a bit ridiculous and unproductive...Perhaps you should consider expressing your views in a more rational manner...Not that people are more likely to change their own opinions to suit you, BUT, they may be more willing to listen to yours:)