Gun Control Debate

[Phalanx]

Drug use would not see a significant increase with the legality of said substances. More people would be apt to try them, sure, but that's a given. Legalizing them would cut down on crime.

Yes...because it wouldn't BE a crime?
Duh.
Are you saying legality is the only driving factor for you to make your decisions on? Oh sure...legalize murder...sure, you can kill someone legally, but yknow it STILL would be something I'd consider a "problem". Just as your "legal" firearms are.
Most people can draw the line between
*I can legally obtain a firearm to protect myself...etc
&
*If it's legal, I can obtain it and use it as I see fit.
...Unfortunately, that doesn't really apply to those that all of a sudden snap and say "fuck it, they're all gonna die".

Do you think if someone wants to pack heat under the radar of the law that they would mind paying a couple hundred more bucks? You underestimate the mind of your common killer, gangster, drug dealer.. whatever.

Maybe if your laws were different, the case would be different. Here, the laws ARE different, and it's not just a matter of a few hundred dollars more, the pricing easily goes up tenfold. Yeah, sure, some people could do this...but it would be far fewer and further between...and I believe it would take most STUDENTS out of the equation at least?
If there's one thing I've known criminals to be, it's notoriously lazy...fits in with their whole deal..."what can I do so I don't have to get a job"...etc They go with what's easy.
You keep referring to the criminal element as though it's mainly them that's the problem? The problem is availability...kids shooting eachother up and everyone says "they were always really quiet, kept to themselves, I'd never expect them to do this" time and time again. Are these people your standard CRIMINAL element? No.
For fucks sake...this guy got through 30+ people! Where were all your fellow citizens with THEIR guns to stop him, hm? didn't happen. A lot of good legal firearms did THIS situation...No staff, no security, nobody stopped them before that high a headcount...and it took place over two hours?
I don't think there's ever been a better case to think about changing certain laws.

Nice, a passive aggressive threat against my family. You lost any sort of credibility you MIGHT have had.

If that's what you think it was...coming from someone over the internet, living in a different country and all:rolleyes: How astute. It wasn't a threat, passive aggressive or otherwise.
Are you saying that if yourself or family fell victim to such an attack carried out by a person who simply did it "because they could", you wouldn't feel a little differently about the easy availability of firearms?
See...you've just illustrated my point about the paranioa. So you've moved on from calling me an idiot to perceiving me a threat? Anything to ignore the validity of the points I've clearly made, sinking so low as to insult sombodies intelligence when what's written here is in no way reprasentative of a persons IQ or smarts...all of this hostility, even though I speak from an outside perspective, from a country that because of anti-gun laws, suffers far less than yours?
What you ignore is before your eyes, and it's sad.
Since we're calling names though, allow me to offer you my take.
You're obviously a dogmatic, self absorbed fool.
It's unfortunate that a discussion had to swing towards an argument...but at least it's clear who turned it that way, I was trying to provide an observation and some imput from an outside perspective, then someone went on the immediate defensive...touch a nerve?
Nothing personal, but I think maybe you ought to be medicated.
Don't bother talking to me again...you're just trapped, and I have no intention of running in circles with someone of such closed mindedness. It's people like you that contribute to the negative perception of your country.
End of discussion.

[bloodrayne]

Originally Posted by AmericanManiac

This recently arised to our governments concern yet once again, after such a tragic even that happened in Virginia. I personally am against what they are trying to do with the gun control, If we start changing all of our amendments that our founding fathers gave us, we are going to end up being a dictatorship government. (The past few elections, I believe we aren't a democracy anymore) If we had a majority of our teachers trained in firearm safty, and was able to have a fire arm on them in the school, do you think so many innocent lives would have been taking at VT? What are your thoughts on this.

Well, I guess we can end this debate now...As it turns out, this didn't happen because of the easy accessibility of guns (or the fact that the shooter was a fucking nutcase)...It was all because of video games :rolleyes:

http://horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29410

[_____V_____]

Originally Posted by bloodrayne

Well, I guess we can end this debate now...As it turns out, this didn't happen because of the easy accessibility of guns (or the fact that the shooter was a fucking nutcase)...It was all because of video games :rolleyes:

http://horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29410

All I got to say to that is...BLAH!

:mad: :rolleyes:

[DP McCoy]

And I thought it was all Oldboy's fault!

[bloodrayne]

Originally Posted by DP McCoy

And I thought it was all Oldboy's fault!

Oh, I'm positive it would have been because of horror (or violent action) movies, IF someone had seen him watching horror movies instead of playing video games:rolleyes:

[zwoti]

Originally Posted by bloodrayne

Oh, I'm positive it would have been because of horror (or violent action) movies, IF someone had seen him watching horror movies instead of playing video games:rolleyes:

they don't need that,


just the chance that he could have seen it is enough




childs play 3 anyone :rolleyes:

[Posher778]

Originally Posted by zwoti

they don't need that,


just the chance that he could have seen it is enough




childs play 3 anyone :rolleyes:

he was inspired by the violence and extreme gore.

[_____V_____]

Originally Posted by zwoti

they don't need that,


just the chance that he could have seen it is enough




childs play 3 anyone :rolleyes:

Whats next? Blame the kitchen-sink for being too slippery? Or the breeze for being too loud? Maybe the flies and bees who keep buzzing around the ears...:rolleyes:

Honestly, this is a pathetic attempt to feebly grasp at straws. They should ve taken it a whole lot more seriously than this.

[DP McCoy]

Originally Posted by zwoti

they don't need that,


just the chance that he could have seen it is enough




childs play 3 anyone :rolleyes:

Yep,I remember that example.

[zwoti]

Originally Posted by DP McCoy

Yep,I remember that example.

more wonderful reporting by the scum newspaper,
sorry i mean the sun newspaper :rolleyes:




with one hand they blame violent cinema for everything wrong with society...


...and with the other they give away copies of hellraiser/halloween to boost their circulation.