Good News For You "Political Debaters"

[bwind22]

[i]Gay Marriage (keeping two people who sincerely love each other from forming a bond that is recognized by the state ... because they don't want everyone else to think it is acceptable) [/B]

I think this would make an excellent debate topic! I'm 100% opposed to gay 'marriage' and 100% non-opposed to gay civil union with the same benefits as a married couple.

How can this be you might ask?

Well, being a Christian, marriage means something quite different to me than what it has come to mean to society from a legal standpoint. It is a sacrament. It is a vow between a man and a woman before God to love each other until death do them part.

I don't have any problem with people that want to be gay, whatever you do in your home is your own business, IMO. BUT two men and two women CAN NOT receive the sacrament of marriage because it is a religious pact between a man and a woman. By the government intervening and saying that it is okay, I feel they are crossing the line between seperation of church and state. It isn't there place to say.

"Well, then the homosexuals are being treated as second class citizens." You might say. Well, that's true, but not because they aren't allowed to be married. It's because the government gives special privelages to married couples. My solution would be to stop that. Either there should be no privelages for being married, or a gya couple in a civil union should receive the same benefits.

That's all. My problem is not with gays being together. It's with them trying to use the term 'marriage', which as I said is a sacred ritual to Christians.

P.S. This forum will kick ass!

P.S.S. I can't believe BloodRayne left me off her list of debaters. :(

[Arioch]

I would have ABSOLUTELY no problem with a solution so win-win to that situation Bwind....you should write congress...im 100% for equal rights btw....

[Egekrusher]

I'll save the rest of it for the new forum, but one thing that makes me a little upset is the fact that Christians think that marriage is unique to their religion or that they created it. It is NOT. Marriage was around for thousands of years before the first stirrings of Christianity. Even the ancient Aztecs were practicing forms of marriage. Why should it offend you that two people of the same sex want to be married? It is not against your religion per se because your religion did not invent the idea of marriage.

[bwind22]

There have been 'forms of marriage' forever, yes. But 'marriage' is a sacrament. That term comes from Christianity. I don't know what they called it before Christianity came along and gave it a title. (Taking a wife, perhaps?) It doesn't bother me in the slightest that gays want to be together. That's great. Good for them. But they can't be married, because Christianity doesn't allow it. (In fact, being gay is a sin in Christianity.)

It's the term and usage of the word 'marriage' that I have the problem with. 'Marriage' is a sacrament. The government really shouldn't use the term. (but they do, because our country was founded by Christians.) We all know how many people hate when other aspects of religion creep into society, right? Why should this be any different?

[Arioch]

I'll save the rest of it for the new forum, but one thing that makes me a little upset is the fact that Christians think that marriage is unique to their religion or that they created it. It is NOT. Marriage was around for thousands of years before the first stirrings of Christianity. Even the ancient Aztecs were practicing forms of marriage. Why should it offend you that two people of the same sex want to be married? It is not against your religion per se because your religion did not invent the idea of marriage.

I must agree....for the block...

[bwind22]

Originally posted by Arioch
I must agree....for the block...

lol

I nominate 'gay marriage' as the first official debate of the new forum. I gotta go now, but we can continue this at a later date.


Seeyas!

;)

[Hate_Breeder]

Hooooray this way i can post my thoughts on Bush in my very own forum :rolleyes: lol tell him to change the look of the site why your at it

[fluffho]

sounds good to me

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by bwind22
I can't believe BloodRayne left me off her list of debaters. :(

I am SOOO sorry, Bwind...How could I?...You almost always make MY points so that I don't have, to ;) ...That oversight could probably be attributed to the sleep deprivation...However...It's all fixed now:cool: :)

[wufong]

Originally posted by bloodrayne

Here are Horror's OWN words..."We welcome the views of people from any political party or belief as long as they aren't trying to promote violence, extreme hatred, racism, etc.".

why is he taking all the fun out of it?