Star Trek: Horror out of context

[Fake Shemp]

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[Sculpt]

Originally Posted by Fake Shemp

I've often wondered what Roddenberry's views are.... Bread and Circuses is rather strange as it doesn't seem to put Christianity in a bad light, it's just weird that it's there at all; maybe I'm projecting my own views on it... the one about Apollo is pretty obviously a criticism though, as are some of the others.

The breakdown of good and evil in Star Trek is pretty black and white. There are many interesting and even relatively challenging ideas put forth, just in a clumsy manner. I've seen some of Next Gen and they seem to play with those ideas a little more, but still in a surprisingly simplistic way. The Enemy Within is typical of Matheson as far as some kind of "lone man with internal struggle" goes, it just doesn't translate well, but as with most old Star Trek, if you don't think about it too hard, it's almost compelling. I sort of like the image of a guy physically holding up and supporting his "evil" side-- very strange.

And I like the image of the guy from The Thing you have there :)

When writing my first reply, I immediately thought of the "Bread and Circuses" ep ending (though I didn't remember the name of it). It certainly seems like a friendly node to christianity, without any specifics; except the 'Septimus explains he was a senator until he heard the "words of the Sun" and was made a slave.', which I think appeared to be a positive in the ep, but would have been Rod's main objection to christianity. I see Roddenberry co-wrote this ep. He only wrote some of the eps, but designated their parameters.

The Apollo (who mourns for Adonis?) ep is interesting in that I thought it insinuated space aliens had caused the greek gods religion. But also, yes, it seems anti-god. But he didn't write that ep.

With a little research, I see Rod makes clear he is not an atheist, and believes in a kind of god, he's just anti-religion.

Do you have netflix? You should checkout Next Gen 'Devils Due', as it's the same subject matter.

[nontonfilmonline]

Interesting Devil episode you've described. Sounds a bit like Devil's Due (a really good Next Ep). Of course Roddenberry was a Humanist and fairly virulent anti-christian, some eps ring that up, some don't.

[Sculpt]

Originally Posted by nontonfilmonline

Interesting Devil episode you've described. Sounds a bit like Devil's Due (a really good Next Ep). Of course Roddenberry was a Humanist and fairly virulent anti-christian, some eps ring that up, some don't.

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[Fake Shemp]

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[anglewitch]

Originally Posted by Fake Shemp

No, there is a devil episode, that's what I've been on about. I did also mention Devil's Rain.

Just watched it on television last night. I can get weird stuff on the antenna.


IT WAS SO SATANIC!


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[Sculpt]

Originally Posted by Fake Shemp

You should have been more careful when you visited Dr. Korby's planet...or did you recently try to beam up during an electric storm?

Ever since my visit to Dr Korby's planet my bathroom scale is way off.

[JeremyRay]

Star Trek is best when it's horror.

Borg Queen: [to a dismantled Borg drone] It's a shame you're not alive to experience disembodiment. It's the epitome of perfection.

First Contact would have been fantastic if they'd taken out the camp and made it a pure scifi/horror movie.