And your next Top 100 compilation is...

[realdealblues]

I must admit, I honestly don't remember what all was in my list I must have keep sent messages turned off. I'll try to think about it and pick 5 I don't remember voting for.

[hammerfan]

Originally Posted by realdealblues

I must admit, I honestly don't remember what all was in my list I must have keep sent messages turned off. I'll try to think about it and pick 5 I don't remember voting for.

LOL, I'm in the same boat!

[Straker]

Sorry to hear you aren't doing too good V, hope you get well soon! The Top 100 will still be here when you get back though!

As for where we're at right now, I'll try and throw a list together of movies that I didn't vote for, but I also think its a good idea for people to start making their cases for the movies they voted for that have been overlooked.... Like Bela Tarr's 7 hour epic, Sátántangó, or Kurosawa's Rashomon or Tarkovsky's Andrei Rublev. 'Foreign' movies can be awesome too, its not just The Matrix that rocks.

There are some bloody awful movies on that master list too, some of you people should be ashamed of yourselves.

Originally Posted by roshiq

Thanks & Great selection, Villain! I've no complain against them, moreover really glad to see some support for my one of the very favorite films...12 Angry Men.

I guess you were the other person who voted for 12 Angry Men then.

[metternich1815]

Originally Posted by roshiq

Ok guys, here's a proposition I like to share with you...

As long V's going through his recovery, we can continue some discussions/debate from where he can later take some necessary notes/points and update both the list of Final Top 100 selection & the list of backburners.

Now, my proposition is...we all, one by one chose 5 Great Films from the above master list that weren't in your submitted Top 20 but you like to or won't mind to see them in the final compilation.

After each set of 5 films from a member, we'll have some discussions (like we already have so far) about what other members thinks regarding the chosen 5's worthiness to be part of Top 100.

NOTE: PLEASE DON'T PICK ANY OF THE SELECTED FILMS FROM V'S SUBMITTED FIRST 2 SETS AS WE ALREADY HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THEM.

From the above master list, here's my chosen 5 Great films that weren't in my submitted Top 20 but I'll love/like to or at least won't mind to see them making into the final 100:

Lawrence Of Arabia (1962)
To Kill A Mockingbird (1962)
A Clockwork Orange (1971)
Apocalypse Now (1979)
GoodFellas (1990)

The reason I didn't pick them earlier into my submitted Top 20 to V is, I believed there are couple of number of brilliant films that will eventually make into the master list with or without my suggestions and the above 5 are some of them. My plan was to give them necessary back up & my full support whenever requires. Now, please feel free to discuss about them and share your opinion regarding whether they should be in the final 100 or not. Or you have any objections regarding any of them.

Moreover, please let me know here if you guys think this idea isn't good enough and we all should take some time & wait for V's return whenever he comes back in good shape. And for that, I'll agree too. I only shared the idea just to keep continue the debate/discussions, so that we can make some progress meantime.

Here is my list:

Twelve Monkeys- An excellent, mind-bending film with an excellent story and a solid cast. the film contains an interesting exploration of the topic of fate. Further, I love how the line between fiction and reality is unclear. Through most of the movie you are not sure if this is real or the delusions of a maniac.

The Terminator- A classic science fiction film from the 1980s. I honestly did not include it on my list because I was not sure if it was horror. The film has elements of romance, horror, science fiction, and action. Definitely deserving of a place.

Blade Runner- A dark science fiction story based on a work by noted science fiction author Phillip K. Dick. If I recall correctly, this was the only film based on his works that he had seen and he loved it. There were some excellent performances particularly by Harrison Ford and the atmosphere was beautiful. Also, there was some amazing special effects in the film that really brought the world created by Dick alive.

GoodFellas- A quintessential gangster movie. Casino has always been my personal favorite of the Scorsese gangster films, but I definitely see why this film is so loved. Some terrific performances by all involved. It is fascinating to watch the evolution of the main character played by Ray Liotta. This film really helps to illuminate organized crime and why people decide to go into this line of "work".

12 Angry Men- Sadly, I have yet to see this film, but from what I know, it is an absolutely terrific film. For this reason, I will also support it in this list.

(If you can't tell I am a big science fiction lover)

Now, for films that were in my list, but I would like to bring special attention to.

Duck Soup- An absolute classic of comedy. This film is perhaps the best of the Marx Brothers films. It is particularly noteworthy as it is a criticism of dictatorship and war. This is interesting because this is a few years before the launch of the second World War. As with other films by the Marx Brothers, the film was definitely progressive and did things that were questionable for film in the 1930s. A worthy inclusion on this list.

Back to the Future- This film is a quintessential 80s movie. The plot does not entirely make sense and has logical problems, but that is the point. It is clearly referencing the crazy science fiction films of the 1950s and, to top it off, that is the decade they travel back to. The film also contains some excellent performances by Chrsitpher Lloyd as Doc Brown and Michael J. Fox as Martin McFly. Some may say it is not great enough to be included, but I have to disagree. It may not belong in the top 20, but it definitely belongs on the list, in my opinion.

Vertigo- This is perhaps Hitchcock's best non-horror film. It is fascinating to see the main character played by Jimmy Stewart go through the film. You really feel for his character. The film really draws one in and you are on the edge of your seat until the very end. The ending alone is enough for inclusion. Sadly, the film was a failure in its own day, which is sad because it really is an excellent picture.

Dumbo- I figured this list should have at least one Disney movie. It was difficult to choose one, but this is the one I went with (Snow White and the Seven Dwarves would have been a good choice as well). The film had an interesting storyline which centered around an elephant that was teased because his ears were larger than normal. The film discretely was a criticism of racism. As with racism, Dumbo was picked on purely for looking different. This message is even more clear with the crow scene (and one was even named Jim Crow!). That scene is considered one of the first that did not portray a stereotype of African Americans. Originally the film was to be the cover of Time Magazine, but Pearl Harbor happened, preventing this from ever taking place. Definitely a worthy film for inclusion.

Titanic- I know many will disagree with me, but, other than the clichéd romance, this really is an amazing film. I love Cameron's direction, it really draws one in. Even though the romance is a little unoriginal, there is something about it that makes it more interesting than it should be. The film is also an incredibly accurate vision of sailing and sinking of that great ocean liner. In fact, it is probably the most accurate vision. Throughout the film, there are many references to the time its set, which make it appear more realistic. On that note, the film is visually stunning and contains some of the best historical costumes of a period piece, in my opinion. The music that accompanies the film is absolutely beautiful as well. It complements the film perfectly. A year or two ago they re-released the film in 3-D and, I have to say, that was some of the best 3-D I have ever seen. Sorry, for the long defense on this one, it is just this film receives more hate than I think it should, so I wanted to preemptively protect it.

By the way, roshiq, great selections. I completely agree with them all. Definitely worthy inclusions to the list.

Originally Posted by The Villain

I hope everything's OK and you get better V.

Good idea Roshiq. Here's my 5

A Clockwork Orange
12 Angry Men
Close Encounters of The Third Kind
Fight Club
Platoon

I entirely agree with your selections as well. They are definitely worthy films.

Originally Posted by neverending

Thanks for posting the list, V. It's quite an interesting collection of films. And now I see I need to gather my energy to fight for my lone nomination of a stellar adaptation of one of the greatest pieces of Western Literature, The Grapes of Wrath, against some truly awful drek that got multiple votes





<------- Look, see, I'm WINKING, okay? So back off, you Pirates of the Caribbean freaks!

I will also join neverending in support for this film.

Originally Posted by Straker

There are some bloody awful movies on that master list too, some of you people should be ashamed of yourselves.

Yeah, I agree here. Who on Earth would vote for a movie called Mac and Devin go to High School? I don't mean to insult anyone's taste, but that is awful. We might as well compare Shawshank Redemption to the Hangover (joking, of course).

[neverending]

Question for V: There are entries for 12 Monkeys and Twelve Monkeys. Did 12 (Twelve) Monkeys get 2 or three votes?

[_____V_____]

Originally Posted by neverending

Question for V: There are entries for 12 Monkeys and Twelve Monkeys. Did 12 (Twelve) Monkeys get 2 or three votes?

Corrected. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Master List has 228 films, NOT 229.

[sfear]

Just out of curiosity, which Crash was nominated? The one based on the J.G. Ballard novel or the Oscar winner a few years back?

[Sculpt]

Originally Posted by sfear

Just out of curiosity, which Crash was nominated? The one based on the J.G. Ballard novel or the Oscar winner a few years back?

That's Crash 2004 - the winner of Best Picture (Academy Awards)

I know, because it was on my list.

Originally Posted by roshiq

we all, one by one chose 5 Great Films from the above master list that weren't in your submitted Top 20 but you like to or won't mind to see them in the final compilation.

There's a lot from the Master List I think are worthy. Here's 5 that were in my "more than 20 list" that I like a lot:

Dances With Wolves - If i were to redo my top 20, I'd include Dances and cut Crash. It's beautiful, fascinating, compelling, lot's of heart.
Pulp Fiction - Really liked it a lot. But not entirely sure why. There's no subject matter of importance.
A CLOCKWORK ORANGE - a blaze of fascination and richness
Fight Club - compelling and provocative times 10, and effective
The Lion King - after I saw it, and said to myself, 'this was a really good film'.

Originally Posted by roshiq

Lawrence Of Arabia (1962)
To Kill A Mockingbird (1962)
A Clockwork Orange (1971)
Apocalypse Now (1979)
GoodFellas (1990)

Lawrence Of Arabia (1962) - IMO, overrated extraordinaire. Beautiful big screen shots... and at times boring.
To Kill A Mockingbird (1962) - good film and good subject; just see it as one of so many.
A Clockwork Orange (1971) - talked about above.
Apocalypse Now (1979) - fascinating story. The overall film felt a bit unresolved at the end to me.
GoodFellas - entertaining film that pushes buttons, well directed. I felt the subject matter and story was ultimately frivolous.

[metternich1815]

Originally Posted by Sculpt

There's a lot from the Master List I think are worthy. Here's 5 that were in my "more than 20 list" that I like a lot:

Dances With Wolves - If i were to redo my top 20, I'd include Dances and cut Crash. It's beautiful, fascinating, compelling, lot's of heart.
Pulp Fiction - Really liked it a lot. But not entirely sure why. There's no subject matter of importance.
A CLOCKWORK ORANGE - a blaze of fascination and richness
Fight Club - compelling and provocative times 10, and effective
The Lion King - after I saw it, and said to myself, 'this was a really good film'.

Not a bad list, here are my specific thoughts on the films:

Dances with Wolves- I have not seen enough nor do I know enough about Dances with Wolves to have an informed opinion. I own it, perhaps I should watch it.

Pulp Fiction- I definitely agree on this one. It is a classic with some excellent performances and equally excellent directing. One of Tarantino's best, in my opinion.

A Clockwork Orange- I agree with everything said on this film. Honestly, I am surprised it was not considered a horror film. In any case, this film definitely deserves inclusion on this list.

Fight Club- I have not seen this film myself, so I cannot really comment much on the film, but I have heard many good things about it and I am sure it would be a worthy inclusion on the list.

The Lion King- I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I have never really liked this film. There are many Disney films that I loved when I was younger, but this is one I could never really get into to.

[Kandarian Demon]

Ok, here's the 5 movies I've chosen from the master list that was not in my personal list:

A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
I actually considered this movie for my own list, and very nearly included it, so this is a movie I will definitely back :-)

BACK TO THE FUTURE II
The first movie was in my list, and actually I love all 3 of them, so... I think they're all very creative movies that can be enjoyed by all ages.

LABYRINTH
Assuming that this is the one with David Bowie and not another movie of the same name, this is one that could have been in my top 30. I know a lot of people think it's horrible, but I think it's a great fantasy movie, and again... when I don't watch horror, I tend to like more family oriented movies.

SCHINDLERS LIST
I remember when I first saw this movie, the person who wanted me to see it told me that it was a movie that everyone should watch at least once, but that most people wouldn't want to watch more than once. It's certainly a tough movie to get through, it doesn't exactly make you feel good... but it makes you think, and it is extremely well done in every way.

SUPERMAN
If this is the classic 80s movie, and not some remake, then I will definitely back it. I've watched it many times over the years, and although I will admit that it probably hasn't aged too well, I still think it's a great movie, and it was very well done for it's time.