Gender vs Gender

[Freak]

I know a few girls that could kick any guy in here's ass.


Back in high school I was in the lunch room sitting with my friends with the girl(who is a little butch by the way)comes up to my table dumps her tray of food on my head then smacks me in the back of the head with it.I'm dazed for just a few seconds.I regain myself quickly, stand up and punch her right in the mouth.


You may call me a asshole if you want but she deserved it and I don't feel bad about it at all.

[Azazel005]

Rather an interesting issue. While the stereotype may have originated as an archaic idea based on history it still has merit. Generally speaking males progress physically more then women, specifically in relation to muscle mass. That is a general statement rooted in medical reality. It's not true in every case between individuals but is very often true in a huge variety of cases.

It is why there are segretated sports, generally speaking to proffessional athletes at the top of their game will NOT be on even footing if there genders are not the same, males tend to trump that.

Now the issue of fighting like anything is an action that isn't straight forward. Some are more adept at it then others and many women can be more adept at such things then men. It's fine and I can accept that quite readily. I don't know which of them are simply by looking do I?

I am a relatively adept fighter, I have hurt people that have attacked me and waited for the ambulance. It's not something I am proud of and something I prefer to never have to do, but it happens. Now the risk that I COULD hurt someone gets greater both as you compare physical prowess and combat prowess.

If a woman hits me, with a bottle hard enough to smash it over my head there is more then a fair chance I won't be able to react anyway I'd be dazed it fucking hurts. If I was able to react my I certainly wouldn't strike out at the women, attempt to remove the bottle attempt to insure I am not hit again but I wouldn't strike her. My base reaction is that is not equal standing, and there is a real fear that I could hurt her seriously. It may not be true in all cases I am sure there are many women more then a match for me, I am not able to till by eye sight though.

Another example, I was once blindsided by a 14 year old with a phone book. He came up behind me with a leaping strike hitting me hard enough to drop me to one knee. I grabbed his wrist and twisted it away as quick as I could and pushed him back. He was a child, god knows I am not going to strike at him. Even as it was I broke his wrist very badly and was questioned by the police (at the time I was about 20). Now there is very possible 14 year olds adept enough to hurt me, again I can't see that by eye and I need to exercise discretion.

Generally we are talking about defending ourselves from assualt, excessive force is not appriopriate in any case whomever the opponent, what I think Milktoaste and myself are saying, is it can be that much harder to determine when we might be using excessive force if gender isn't the same. I would rather take the risk and take a bit of a beating then inadvertantly do serious damage to an opponent.

[dewaholic]

For those of you that don't knopw or whatever, I am female. I'm all for equality. If a chick hits anyone, even if it's a guy she should be expected to be hit back. I never hit one, but I've choked a couple of them that scared them to death. And I bit one so hard his arm had my teeth marks for a week. The dumbass didn't even fight back. Made it easier for me.

[Azazel005]

Originally Posted by dewaholic

For those of you that don't knopw or whatever, I am female. I'm all for equality. If a chick hits anyone, even if it's a guy she should be expected to be hit back. I never hit one, but I've choked a couple of them that scared them to death. And I bit one so hard his arm had my teeth marks for a week. The dumbass didn't even fight back. Made it easier for me.

Oh I have been bitten hard enough for the bruise and marking to last well over a week... wait that wasn't a fight... nevermind.

[cheebacheeba]

If a chick is punching you - say wait, here, you can hit my face - 10 more of those and it might be almost like me hitting you...maybe...then she'll get even madder, probably try the "double-fist attack", making it easy for you to grab both arms, and restrain her while laughing and thanking her.

If she's attacking with objects, like I said, a kick to the shin is just some FUCKED UP pain that doesn't usually cause any lasting damage, even with steel caps...but it stops someone, usually...or at least makes it easy to retreat not having damaged a person much at all, they can limp after you, but they'll probably just be "ffffffuck" and rubbing their ankle.

The bite thing...hm...there's a few ways I think.
I wouldn't go with a punch to the face, but hey...
Try blocking the nose...but if she's breathing through her mouth too that may not work.
Try introducing even more arm/hand into her mouth. Force feed as it were. That would probably work.
Poke her in the eye, yknow, not hard, but maybe progressively harder until the eye poking becomes too unpleasant and/or irritating to go on biting.
Failing that, just pull her hair until she lets go - try grabbing hair from the back of the neck and pulling it up, that seems to hurt more.

All just "if you keep trying to harm me, this gets worse" stuff, but not all-out physical assaults.
Though usually if a girl were to attack me, I'd just have my girl (who has actually managed to hurt me on occasion) take the reigns and fuck her up.


Also, it's REAL unpleasant but a guy CAN take a hit to the balls and keep swinging, I mean most ball shots aren't all that accurate - heat of the moment etc - some pants like jeans have a "hard" kind of bridge that doesn't allow all that much impact through, not to mention unless the guys legs are wide open and don't close when the kicks coming, you wouldn't really manage to do any damage that would stop an attack.
Not to mention, guys are on to the ball kicking thing...if you tried once, they'd just turn their legs and make it inaccessible, the hips can pivot and all...not to mention, I'm sure a counterattack would hurt.
One on one, MOST women just could not stand up to an attack from a male unless they're packing pepperspray or a tazer, some other kind of weapon.
This is why I don't partake in fistfights with women...though some times I really wish I could change sex momentarily

[Azazel005]

Originally Posted by cheebacheeba

Also, it's REAL unpleasant but a guy CAN take a hit to the balls and keep swinging, I mean most ball shots aren't all that accurate - heat of the moment etc - some pants like jeans have a "hard" kind of bridge that doesn't allow all that much impact through, not to mention unless the guys legs are wide open and don't close when the kicks coming, you wouldn't really manage to do any damage that would stop an attack.

Not to mention, guys are on to the ball kicking thing...if you tried once, they'd just turn their legs and make it inaccessible, the hips can pivot and all...not to mention, I'm sure a counterattack would hurt.

It is a good point to note that it can be pretty difficult to hit someone in the Man-Tackle if they are prepared for the blow, it doesn't take much to avoid the kick as mentioned a swift turn of the leg will make it miss it's mark. It's a greater threat in a "Tackling and grab" sort of situation but anyone who can fight will make it very much a point to keep an eye on the hands.

And yeah if the adrenalin is sufficiently pumping you will push through the pain.

Still I know plenty of girls that can fight well enough that they generally wouldn't go for a classic nut-cracker until your unable to really defend it.

[Haunted]

Originally Posted by Azazel005

Still I know plenty of girls that can fight well enough that they generally wouldn't go for a classic nut-cracker until your unable to really defend it.

Precisely. Trying to restrain an enraged woman is not your best option either. There are other sensitive parts of the body. I mean they exist on male and females, but women can fight tooth and nail.

[cheebacheeba]

Still I know plenty of girls that can fight well enough that they generally wouldn't go for a classic nut-cracker until your unable to really defend it.

Just about the best thing you can do in any given fight is a punch straight in the nose, chicks should go with that if they're trying to fend of an attacker - Don't need much force to it, and a very sensetive, startling area to be hit.

[Haunted]

Or you could take the palm of your hand and ram it up someone's nose breaking it that way. That pretty much always works. Of course, you may kill the poor bastard, but if he's attacking you, who the hell cares?

[missmacabre]

I think everyone's arguing but all saying the same thing. Neither gender should start a fight, but if someone picks a fight they are asking for it. Milktoaste saying that you should never hit a lady (or gentlemen) to me just meant that you shouldnt start a fight. He said that a lady is someone with manners and as soon as you are picking senseless fights you no longer fit in that category and you are then fair game.

I dunno though, I'm all for femenism and know that men and women are intellectual equals and can be physical equals in a fight. That said, the male and female body are built differently. Women tend to have a smaller bone structure than men, so a knock in the ribs with the same force could break a girls ribs but a man might be fine from that blow. Men have more upper body strength, while women have stronger legs. So, if a man had a fist fight with a woman he might be seen as having an unfair advantage. If it were kick boxing, that would be more equal.