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Old 12-02-2004, 07:45 PM
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Alcohol V Weed

Just thought I'd get a few peoples perspectives on the whole deal...I myself had to justify myself to a friend who drinks on a regular basis.
To me, it's just a matter of how each would effect you personally.
I'm not here to try and change anyones opinions or anything...so yeah, here's my side of things, I'll just repost my side of the convo I had earlier...

"I personally think it's a little more sensible than drinking...but that's only from my individual perspective, I don't expect anybody to have to adopt my views on the matter. The way I see it, if it's done in moderation, there shouldn't be a problem with it.
I don't drink alcohol (apart from y'know occasions n shit), or smoke tobacco...so overall my body is in better shape than the majority.
For at least myself, weed does not induce violent behaviour, and you'll be WAY less likely to be involved in a car accident.
Why? Because alcoholics seem to think it's a good idea to drink drive when they're wasted, where those that are stoned simply cannot be bothered to.
I'm kinda sick of getting judged about this, yknow?
I mean a lot of people that have worse, more self destructive, and more REGULAR habits (eg smoking and drinking) actually put shit on me, simply because of the legality issue, or using the same old "it's a gateway drug" line, yet to date, all I've tried is weed, and 'shrooms (once), and nothing manufactured.
Again, I maintain that I'm doing my body far less damage with what I do, and I'm also less of a public threat this way...dont ya think? No secondary smoke for others, no getting into fights (trust me, when I'm drunk, I'm one big, angry, almost unstoppable motherfucker), no drink driving...see, when you just THINK about it, it's pretty much better for the user, and the general public than either drinking OR smoking...
As for the legality issue, in my opinion, this was clearly a law created to benefit the drinkers.., and enforced by those that aren't prepared to meet half way. Laws aren't always fair.

So...thoughts?
Let's try to keep it mature, shall we?
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Old 12-02-2004, 07:50 PM
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there's no contest .. alcohol is far worse.

exibit a: Shanks..

seriously .. alcohol is worse ...

the piss poor arguement people want to raise with weed is that weed leads to bigger and worse things.

bullshit. the willingness to experiment led to the bigger and better things.
if you have an addictive personality you will always press forward.. keep trying things to the excess.

Weed is not a stepping stone to hard drugs.
Only a fool would think so... someone looking for the easy answer.

alcohol has done more damage in society than any other abusive substances combined.

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Old 12-02-2004, 07:51 PM
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i dont

im too weird as it is.
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Old 12-02-2004, 07:53 PM
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Urgeok...
Despite our past issues,
I like where you're coming from here man.., not just that you were agreeing with me, but you make a good point, a good, honest, and true to life point.
My respect for you has raised significantly, however much you personally value it.

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Old 12-02-2004, 07:55 PM
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Old 12-02-2004, 07:55 PM
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i agree, weed doesnt make you sick or feel like shit the next day. weed is all natural, you pick it, dry it, smoke it. ive never met anyone who got weed poisoning, although i do know several who od'ed on drink. there is no fermentation process in weed. try this, the next time you smoke with a couple of people, put a tape recorder in the room, with their permission of course, and you will hear some of the deepest conversations you will ever hear. try it with alcohol, and eventually all you will hear will be crying and i love you man and shit like that.
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Old 12-02-2004, 07:57 PM
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B stands for my name.
I'll let you know somewhere down the line...maybe.

Nice to meet you, bonesaw...good point about the convo's.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:04 PM
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weed has an undeniable mellowing effect.
the abuse of alcohol often draws out the true nature of the person.
Whatever you harbour beneath the surface ,, out it comes for better or worse. generally worse because most people dont hide their good traits .. unless they're shy.

alcohol has a high chance of doing the jekyll n hyde dance with most people where weed doesnt seem to at all.

i'm not going to even get into all of the far reaching social ramifications because we all see them in the news every day.

weed ... boosts the sale of junk food ... great for the economy.

the usa is pissed at canada actually because we are more lenient on possession, where the usa see it as a direct slap in the face of their 'war on drugs'
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:39 PM
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I like to drink and I also smoke on occasion, but I prefer drinking to be honest. For one thing, it's socially acceptable and in general, most people won't hold anything against you if you drink. I also just prefer drinking with friends as opposed to smoking with them.

I think both smoking and drinking are good in moderation (Stress relief with smoking and social benefits with drinking) but the extremes of both are definately hazardous to your health.

Of course, with alcohol you also have drunk driving. Which is why, in my opinion, Alcohol is definately worse.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:47 PM
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nice to re-meet you again. ive been around for quite some time, someone just likes to ban people around here.
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