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Old 06-23-2005, 10:11 AM
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Moral Dilema

Okay....

I am beginning to host ads over on my site, as anyone who happens over there may notice.

Now, i have been hosting ads for amazon.com forever, no biggie there. I discovered another place today that has all kinds of ads available (they can be seen at the bottom of everypage but the main page). I'm cool with those too.

Now, the thing that is getting me is this:

I have discovered that a ton of money can be made through Fastclick. The moral dilema is this, every time i have run spybot or adaware, both key on fastclick cookies. now, it has never been proven that fastclick uses tracking cookies for anything other than collecting advertising info, ie, their cookies record whether you have been to the site or not, but still....

I would love to make a bundle off my site (maybe the damn thing will pay for itself.....), but i dont want to be dumping garbage on people's computers.

What is a vod to do? Will i be making my site profitable, or will i be selling out to "the man"?
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:17 AM
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Don't be selling out to " the man" man.
I got enough shit clogging up my computer's pores.As a matter of fact , thinking of giving it a good cleaning up this weekend.......if i ever leave the pool and my beer.:D
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:22 AM
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Im doing some research on fastclick. I just had a thought, the evil barrons i might be thinking of are "doubleclick", not "fastclick". i may be in the clear here.


Wow, what if i can have my cake and eat it too?


Just to be safe, i will run tests on my pc before i put it on my site for real.


the plot thickens....


Oh, and for the record, i passed on some very profitable "adult" banners for my site. i think i should get a cookie for that.
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:23 AM
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Bite the bullet and go with it, if people want to come to your site they are going to keep coming, and running their adaware programs and ditching the cookies etc. what you need to count on is the tards that buy the wal-mart computers, and no NOTHING about ads, spyware,etc. except that they are buzzwords that their friends who are "hackers" :rolleyes: talks about.

Ive been running sites for years, and yeah I lose visitors in the beginning, but they ALL at one time or another seem to come back.

One option you could have, is to create a carbon copy of your site and offer "AD-FREE" membership ;) for like 1.99 a month. Or toss in some of that porn you have stored up and get anywhere from 5.99 a month to 25.00 a month.

either way.....spam on wit yer bad self
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:26 AM
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Ahh Iniquity. i can always count on you to stoke the raging capitalist in me :)
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:27 AM
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:29 AM
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Oh, and for the record, i passed on some very profitable "adult" banners for my site. i think i should get a cookie for that.
adult banners will pay your house payment if you can get enough traffic.

*hangs head in shame* not very proud of this, but prior to my daughter being born and getting all semi-moral etc. about what I would NEVER want my daughter finding out about me I used to own teensex.com it was NOTHING to rack in 10g's a month from that site. I sold it off to a company called cybahn, who I believe last time I checked was absorbed by some chinese or japanese hmmm some nese company that does nothing but porn. point being, if you dont mind the mental anguish you can make a LOT of money legally with those sites and ads. it will just take you a little while to see how the business works. What kills a lot of adult sites is that they only cater to one market/kink. If you are a regular ole Pornucopia of media then your survival chances get a LOT higher. If ya ever wanna know the ins/outs *no pun intended :D * gimme a yell
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:36 AM
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I think my wife would kill me.

Im sticking with horror/game/media/food related content.

I applied to fastclick, so we will see how that goes. Some of the ads i have are by-impression, so simply going to my site could make me money. So go have a visit, you bastards :)
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:47 AM
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I think my wife would kill me.

Im sticking with horror/game/media/food related content.

I applied to fastclick, so we will see how that goes. Some of the ads i have are by-impression, so simply going to my site could make me money. So go have a visit, you bastards :)
how do you get the money, by bank transfer??

how will you know they know the amount of clicks are accurate?

why not program a bot to search out proxys, go through them and click the links via loads of different i.ps... thousands of clicks per day :p
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:04 AM
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adult banners will pay your house payment if you can get enough traffic.

*hangs head in shame* not very proud of this, but prior to my daughter being born and getting all semi-moral etc. about what I would NEVER want my daughter finding out about me I used to own teensex.com it was NOTHING to rack in 10g's a month from that site.

10g's a month? Good lord! ;) I don't have kids yet...hmm....;)
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