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Old 09-26-2004, 01:14 AM
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NOES, The True Story

Okay, so obviously NOES isn't a true story, but I got you interested, and the title is somewhat related to the topic, so here goes.

While listening to the Commentary on the NOES DVD, Wes Craven mentioned a series of articles that gave him the inspiration for this movie. The general gist of the articles, according to Wes, was that foreign exchange students had come to the U.S. and soon after started having really bad Nightmares, after which they would call their parents, and their parents would tell them that they would fell better after they got some rest. The kids went back to sleep, and then suddenly died in their sleep. My question is this, does anybody have a link showing the authenticity of those articles, with scans of them or something of the sort? The whole idea that NOES has an element of truth in it is scary as f*ck for one, but more importantly I'm wanting to know if Wes bought into some Urban Legend here, or if these articles were actually in respectable news sources and weren't just Halloween spoofs or anything.

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Old 09-26-2004, 01:18 AM
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I really dont have any clue as to anything related to the authenticity of that. But that does sound like something i read in a book of Ghost stories or something a long time ago. dont know if that helps but its all i got.:D :D
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Re: NOES, The True Story

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Okay, so obviously NOES isn't a true story, but I got you interested, and the title is somewhat related to the topic, so here goes.

While listening to the Commentary on the NOES DVD, Wes Craven mentioned a series of articles that gave him the inspiration for this movie. The general gist of the articles, according to Wes, was that foreign exchange students had come to the U.S. and soon after started having really bad Nightmares, after which they would call their parents, and their parents would tell them that they would fell better after they got some rest. The kids went back to sleep, and then suddenly died in their sleep. My question is this, does anybody have a link showing the authenticity of those articles, with scans of them or something of the sort? The whole idea that NOES has an element of truth in it is scary as f*ck for one, but more importantly I'm wanting to know if Wes bought into some Urban Legend here, or if these articles were actually in respectable news sources and weren't just Halloween spoofs or anything.

Any info would be much appreciated.
I have the box set and I've seen all the commentarys, but I don't recall hearing that. I recall him saying he got if from the newspaper. A child had nightmares every night and it got to a point that he would do just about anything not to go asleep because he felt that the nightmares were feeling just too real. So he stayed up for nights then he went down stairs and sat on the cough to watch television but he feel asleep and his father carried him up to his room. Latter on in the night the parents wake up to the sound of his screams, they rush to his room and he was dead. No blood, no poision, no one knew why he died. Later on after his death the parents learned he had a coffee maker under his bed. And the figure of Freddy, his mean look and all, was token from a memory Craven had as a child. He and his family were in a hotel and he looked out the window and saw this ugly, wrikkled, old man starring up dirrectly at him. The man went inside and Craven go scared when he herd someone walking down his floor and screamed, and the old man was no where to be found. The old, mean and wrikley look was the first concept for Freddy's looks, but he mad eit even better; he made him look like a burnt demon from the pits of Hell.
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I can relisten to the commentary, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't drunk, and I don't generally hear things that aren't there. For the record, the DVD I was listening to was the one from Netflix, and might not necessarily be the one from the box set you're talking about.

The general idea that you implied was stated at one point in the commentary, though he didn't go into that much detail. I can guarantee that he did say that there were at least three separate newspaper articles claiming this same thing happening to three different people. He did mention one of the kids who died this way having a coffee-maker under his bed as well. I'm not saying he got all his info right, he could have just as easily been mixing up memories of different scary stories and newspaper stories he had heard of the years. But, the general gist of the idea was that some kids somewhere had had bad dreams (at least on three separate occassions with three separate newspaper articles) that had been so bad they told their parents about it and told them that they didn't want to go back to sleep. At some point or another all of these kids eventually went back to sleep and never woke up, and they could find no real reason for them to have died.

I hope someone else has heard this or has any clue about these articles, it sounds like such a cool idea that this could be based on semi-fact, but it also screams Urban Legend, in that "A Friend of a Friend" (or an obscure Newspaper article) told me this.

For the record, the commentary had Wes Craven, the guy who played Nancy's dad, Nancy, and the directory of photography. Like I said, he also mentioned the kid with the coffee-pot under his bed, but he definitly mentioned the newspaper stories about kids dying after having nightmares.


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This sounds really weird........I hope you can find more information on it. Did you try seaching the web for it? Going to assume you did. Keep looking!
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Re: Re: NOES, The True Story

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I have the box set and I've seen all the commentarys, but I don't recall hearing that. I recall him saying he got if from the newspaper. A child had nightmares every night and it got to a point that he would do just about anything not to go asleep because he felt that the nightmares were feeling just too real. So he stayed up for nights then he went down stairs and sat on the cough to watch television but he feel asleep and his father carried him up to his room. Latter on in the night the parents wake up to the sound of his screams, they rush to his room and he was dead. No blood, no poision, no one knew why he died. Later on after his death the parents learned he had a coffee maker under his bed.
What is the relevance of the coffee maker? To stay awake?
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Wes mentions the articles in the Encyclopedia also of the boxset.

Wes didn't get the idea for Freddy from the articles, just the concept of dreaming and dying. The concept of Freddy came from some guy he saw walking down the street as he looked out his window in the middle of the night.

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Wes mentions the articles in the Encyclopedia also of the boxset.

Wes didn't get the idea for Freddy from the articles, just the concept of dreaming and dying. The concept of Freddy came from some guy he saw walking down the street as he looked out his window in the middle of the night.
Thats what conclussion MY reasearch brought me to...
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maybe they died from cardiac arrest brought on by excess caffeine ?!
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Wes mentions the articles in the Encyclopedia also of the boxset.

Wes didn't get the idea for Freddy from the articles, just the concept of dreaming and dying. The concept of Freddy came from some guy he saw walking down the street as he looked out his window in the middle of the night.
*nods* I never meant to imply that he got the idea for Freddy from the articles, just the idea of dying from dreams.
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