[Sculpt]

Gak... this is going to be worse than I thought.

Originally Posted by Straker

We have 14 or so movies in the list and we are talking about some really ordinary movies like they belong in that elite bracket. I feel like I'm so far removed from the debate at this point that all I'm going to be doing is ragging on peoples favourite films and that's not something I want to do. Its a shame that so many of the amazing movies on our masters list aren't going to get a look in, when compared to some of the flicks with strong support at this early stage, but that's the nature of these types of list I guess.

Hang in there, Straker. We're doing 100 films, and in the process the other films will be looked at. There's no sense getting pissed off about films in the list you think are better than these -- simply because we haven't got to them yet.

I say this to hopefully put you in the most lucid state of mind in order to fully ENJOY this: you have to realise it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE that every film our group of 17 people choose will be films you personally think should be in the top 100 films. Because that would just be your list. The reality is 75% of the films will not be what you'd appraise for 100 films. That's an accurate estimation, wouldn't you agree? This is an easychair exercise of fun when you do it with 17 other folks.

Originally Posted by The Villain

Just personally speaking I wouldn't count a film as one of the best ever just because its funny and quotable

Just to be clear, I didn't select either of those films. And I'm not saying they are worthy only because they are funny or quotable. I was referring to the expertise in comedy film - encompassing the camera angles/movements/compesition, lighting, actors body/facial movements, sets, costumes; story build, flow & execution, & character development.

Originally Posted by Straker

I'm neg voting the following films:
Johnny Depp has scissors: Nope.

Your specific description, or lack there of, has me curious... did you see Edward Sissorhands in it's entirety? I hope none of us neg films we haven't seen.

Edward Sissorhands
None of the films on my Top 20 List are merely personal favorites. I hope none of us makes that dismissive assumption of eachothers' picks, embracing diversity of appreciation instead. But let me start from not my opinion:

RottenTomatoes.com
Critics Rating: 91% (54 reviews), Audience: 91% (1,027,618 ratings)
Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films: (Saturn)
Won: Best Fantasy Film
Won: Best Supporting Actor: Alan Arkin
Won: Best Actress: Winona Ryder
Nominated: Best Supporting Actress, Dianne Wiest
Nominated: Best Music, Danny Elfman
Nominated: Best Costumes
Hugo Awards:
Best Dramatic Presentation
Sant Jordi Awards (Spain)
Best Foreign Film
Best Foreign Actress: Winona Ryder
Grammy Awards
Nominated: Best Instrumental Composition Written for a Motion Picture
British Academy Film Awards
Won: Best Production Design
Won: Best Costume Design
Nominated: Best Special Visual Effects
Nominated: Makeup
Oscars
Nominated: Best Makeup
Golden Globes
Best Comedy Actor: Johnny Depp
New York Film Critics Circle Awards
Best Cinematographer: 3rd place

And my opinion... Edward Sissorhands is the best Romantic film of the last 25 years. That's Romantic, as in Romanticism the art form: intense emotion as an authentic source of aesthetic experience: apprehension, horror, awe, spontaneity, the exotic, passion and love.

Edward Sissorhands: created another world, dealt with conformity, the human tragedy of being different & society's enmity to it, the vulnerability of being an artist, alagories to Frankenstein, Creation, the Christ, etc. Elite technical artistry in cinematography, direction and music; beautiful and deeply moving story.