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Originally Posted by Kandarian Demon
But are you saying that if they WERE dating, you WOULD care? (I get that you wouldn't harm anyone for it, just wondering what you meant)
I think I get what you mean - I think I've said several times in several threads that I'm not a fan of the extreme "torture porn" genre. I can watch it, but it disturbs me in a way that I don't enjoy... luckily, there are a million other movies to watch... and I don't mind gore at all, it's just that particular category of movies that I don't enjoy much.
BUT... the gender of the victims in those movies really don't make a difference to me. I don't think that it's degrading or harmful to woman that there are female characters in those movies. Woman are not a minority that needs special protection - and even if they were, that wouldn't automatically make it a problem when a female character gets killed or tortured.
I think this comparison might make it easier to understand what I'm trying to explain:
If there's two things I absolutely can't stand in this world, it's racism and homophobia. I absolutely do not tolerate it.
But I am not going to scream "discrimination!" simply because a coloured or gay character is hurt in a horror movie. I would be more worried if there were no characters like that at all.
I would have a problem if it was clearly the directors intention that I should find the characters pain/death amusing or somehow morally justified BECAUSE that character was gay or non-white - or if the character was somehow being ridiculed during the scene for being what he or she happens to be, through the use of stereotypes, for example. I've seen this happen in a few movies, and THAT offended me.
I hope this made some sense...
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If I saw an effeminate male dating a woman I found attractive, would I care? No, I wouldn't care anymore than if he was a masculine guy. In both cases, if they were attached to me for some reason, I might involuntarily eat my heart out, but then consciously watch and learn.
Everything you've wrote makes sense to me. It also offends me if it was clearly the directors intention that I should find the characters pain/death amusing or somehow morally justified because of that characters race, sex or orientation.
I also don't like it when stereo types are mis-portrayed -- that is, after they are labeled, their views or actions are counter to the stereo type or the core belief systems; especially when it's done with malice. But unfortunately, simplicity and stereo types are common to stories and films, due to lack of time and concentration on the plot. Comes with the territory.