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Old 01-16-2011, 07:47 PM
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In the UK we have freedom of speech, assembly, press & petition and the complete lack of guns. No-one is bothered by this.
If someone were to start taking away the rights you do have though, you may have an issue with it. (At least, I hope you would.) In the US we have the right to bear arms and if someone threatens to take away that right, I have a huge problem with that.

Now that being said, I'm not opposed to rules and regulations pertaining to gun ownership. We have some of those in place. (Felons can not own guns, certain guns are not legal, etc...) There's a big difference between a rancher with a rifle or tax-paying stand-up citizen owning a glock (the most affordable and user friendly handgun, which is probably why they were such a hot item when idiots feared an immediate moratorium on gun sales.) to keep in their home for protection and some 17 year old gangbanger in Detroit with an Uzi. Huge difference.

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However, if police came into your home without a warrant your first thought would be to shoot them? I know this probably isnt true ;) but it could be interpreted that way.
This is actually a pretty loaded question. The police can't come in my home without a warrant. If they did, they'd be violating my civil rights. Would I shoot them? In general, no. But if it's a crooked cop breaking in to my home to rape my wife or hurt my kid, you'd better believe it.

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Surely that was when us Brits were just kicked out and the new country needed all its citizens to be ready in case we tried again. Im fairly confident this wont be happening soon....
There is no disclaimer attached to it. We have the right to keep and bear arms. Simple as that. Doesn't matter if the government has a military or the Brits don't plan on attacking us. It is one of the 10 basic freedoms this country was founded on.

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This would be nightmare true, there would have to be a bastard long amnesty in order for people to hand over their guns (they've had similar amnestys here in the UK with great success). Im not suggesting this is something that could be done in a short period of time but over five years, ten years? Why not?
Moving past the fact that ownership is in our BIll of Rights, because the only people that would actually turn in their weapons would be the law abiding citizens that aren't the problem in the first place. Most gun owning thugs and gangsters obtained theirs illegally anyway, why would they go hand them over to the cops when there's no record of them having one to begin with? All that would do is disarm the good people who would only shoot another person if they or their family was in legit danger.


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You dont, you clearly feel strongly about this which is something I just dont get. The world will keep turning either way.
Good, glad I'm not coming off like a total asshole. I just strongly disagree with government revoking any of the rights set forth by our founding fathers and when someone suggests it as a good option, I feel like it's only fair to offer a rebuttal.
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