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An 11 yr. old is a child, of course there's a difference. Their body hasn't finished growing. We're talking about adults. Now I don't advocate hitting elderly people. If some old woman hits you with her bag just because she doesn't like the way you look, you need to address her firmly but politely. Older people are delicate (except for Newb, of course).
I'm not trying to convince you to start throwing down with women. However, setting up standards for women to follow is bullshit, and many of us are tired of it. You can be classy and be woman. For instance I swear like a pirate, but I can be tactful if I want to, and I do it to please no one but myself. That's liberation.
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By the time you're twenty-five they will say you've gone and blown it. By the time you're thirty-five I must confide you will have blown them all
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