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Urge is the only one man enough to admit it's all about the gingin. Azazel also had a good point, dinner on a first date is pretty stupid. First dates should be in a more relaxing, escapable if necesary, setting.
Manners can be like white lies. So many people with perfect manners are total a-holes in person. It makes me wonder how the top ten turn offs could all be manner related. I can think of so many non-manner realted turn offs.
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