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Originally Posted by bloodrayne

When Zwoti gets your message, he won't be able to access your link...I cleaned up quite a bit of 'mess' here yesterday, along with anything that had degraded to arguing

And this 'moderator' didn't say anything out of line

The majority of us have been here long enough (some of us have been here since the forum STARTED 5 years ago) that we CAN decide how our forum is and how it will be, we don't need new people to come in and tell us how they think it SHOULD be...We will not conform to their liking, they will have to adjust to ours, or they can leave...Majority rules

There are many different types of people here, from many different places and age groups, with many different personalities, yet we have all somehow managed to get along just fine for many years...Many new people jump in, accept us, and do very well, although not all of them can get the hang of it, so they leave...If you are expecting us to change, you will be extremely disappointed and very unhappy here...Your incessant complaining, instigating and demands for us to conform is irritating many of our members, even those who NEVER snap at people (Newb and Jenna, that REALLY surprised me), so I have to conclude that the problem rests with your behavior, not ours.

There are literally millions of forums on the internet, you can choose from any of them if you have a problem with this one

If your "apology" is sincere, you will settle in and refrain from alienating the majority of the forum...We shall see.

Zwoti is an excellent moderator, and he's also a close personal friend...He will agree with me on this issue

just to add my pointless two cents:

you guys are doing a great job, and like _V_ said, you deserve applause.
thanks to you and zwoti and austin for what you do here.